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Casting session this morning.

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Colorado4Wheel, Sep 4, 2010.


  1. Colorado4Wheel

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    I finally had 2 working Lyman 4 cavity molds and handles so I decided to try my hand at casting with two molds and the two furnaces that I now have. Plan was to use the 220v pot to start with and then move on to the other Lee 110V pot when it runs out. Long story short. I really think I am going to like casting with two molds at the same time. It takes a little getting used to. In my opinion you have to have a hot plate. Otherwise you simply won't get the molds up to temp and will be casting like a madman trying to get them up to temp. My process was to set both molds on the hotplate till they register about 280F. I cover them to get the temp a little more even. Then you start casting as fast as possible. They even out in temp pretty quickly and both start making good bullets at about the same time. While the sprue was cooling the stayed on the hotplate. Lyman 4 cavity molds seem to like it hot in my experiance. Once they both make good bullets I turned the plate off but they still rested on the plate while the one cooled and the other one was being filled. You are moving your arm a little more often but for me it was actually better because I never held the mold for very long. You always end up setting it down. So it was less tiring it seemed. Main thing is I wasn't going out of my mind BORED waiting for the sprue to cool. I hate just staring at the thing thinking "is it ready?". Whenevery I was going to stop I turned the hotplate back on to help keep them at temp. When one pot was empty the other was ready and I never had to wait for the lead to get to temp. I can't imagine going back to a single Lee pot. I hear the Lyman and RCBS are a little faster but I am happy with my setup for now. So, I am making bullets faster, they cool longer in the mold (which seems better to me) and I am not bored any longer. It's a win all the way around for me.
     

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  2. GioaJack

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    You are wasting your time by not only casting bullets but by reloading ammunition in general. Don't you understand that TIME IS MONEY and it should be your goal, as well as any financially responsible adult to be the richest man in the grave yard?

    Dispose of all your worthless reloading equipment forthwith and either spend a portion of your vast, vast wealth on factory ammo or hire one of the ignorant poor slobs that spend their otherwise non-productive lives on this forum to do your loading for you. I'm sure that every member here, minus one of course, would gladly give their left testicle, or ovary, depending on the individual member, for a chance to make $7.00 an hour. I know that would be more than twice the highest wage I've ever made.

    Before I would even consider accepting such a windfall position I would have to know the exact metallurgical makeup of both the moulds and the furnaces to assure myself that if I exceed the designed recommended RPM parts would not suddenly take flight and cause damage to my hillbilly looking features.

    Please supply me with the requested technical information posthaste. I apologize that I can not reciprocate with a detailed resume but I have never accomplished enough in life to develop one nor can I afford the the exorbitant price of a stamp to affix to a fictitious rendition.

    Please show a little mercy to one of the forum masses who was not intelligent enough to prepare financially for the dark years of life and throw me this last crumb of hope.

    Your faithful future servant,

    Jack
     

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  3. fredj338

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    IMO, w/ a 20# Lee, you don't need two pots. I often use two molds, heat them up on top of the pot then start casting, alternating between molds. The 20# pot has enough mass that you can add 2# ingots when the pot gets down 1/4 & never stop casting.
     
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  4. GioaJack

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    I think someone told him that, several times. Can't remember who it was though. :dunno:


    Jack
     
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    Where is madscienceman when you need him. :rofl:
     
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    I'm kinda glad Jack took over for him...much more fun to read Jacks posts!

    Sorry Steve glad your casting set up is working out for you! Congrats!
     
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    One Lee 6 cavity is all I need to deal with at one time. I run my Lee 10# pot (should have gotten the 20#) and I run a seperate saucepan on a hotplate to refill the 10#. This keeps me in a steady supply of lead for as long as I care to cast. The hotplate also gets the mold as hot as I dare get it while warming up. I never found myself getting board counting to 10 while the sprue cools. Maybe counting to 10 is more of a challenge for me?

    As the saucepan gets low, I refill it with sprues and ingots. My ingots are 10-15 pound slabs cast by letting the rendered range scrap cool down in the saucepan.

    Steve, did you ever get a chance to try out those pills I sent out?
     
  8. Colorado4Wheel

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    Yeah, I tried all the "add a ingot at a time" things. Tried speed casting as well. For me I just like not having to add other variables. I was constantly chasing temp changes and fluxing. Now I get into a rythem and get to just keep casting. For me it's just a lot less hassle.

    Wisky. I haven't tried those bullets yet. Been really busy and barely have had time to load much less shoot. I was just looking at them today thinking I need to give them a try. I need to look up my old data for 125gr bullets. I will probably try them next week as we are going to chrono next week.
     
  9. Bob2223

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    Well how many boolits an hour did you do with two of everything?
     
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    I thought from your title maybe you tried out for a movie...:wavey:
     
  11. Colorado4Wheel

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    This was a practice session to work out the process. I didn't time anything. I emptied 3 pots of lead. One pot was used breaking in a mold and fiddling with another mold that was having issues.
     
  12. GioaJack

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    He auditioned for a porno flick... they wouldn't give him the part because they said he didn't have the part. Not really sure what they meant by that. :whistling:


    Jack
     
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    About time it started to click for you. Glad to hear it is working out. I wish I had the time to learn to cast. I shoot very little lead but it still interests me and I still toy with shooting more lead in the 1911's. Right now I only shoot lead in the 38. Maybe I should start scrounging what lead I can.
     
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    Thanks for the tip Fred. I think I'll try that the next time I cast.
     
  15. Colorado4Wheel

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    Yeah, I have been making bullets for a little while. It was always a slower process then I wanted it to be. It seemed like it took to long for the output I got. I have 3 qty 4 cavity Lyman 147gr molds and two sets of handles. I really hate sitting down to cast and then having a issue so I wanted a spare. It really is working well for me now so I am pretty happy.
     
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    Right On
     
  17. PBKing

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    2 molds works good for me. I sometimes run 3 but the #20 pot runs down quick

    Never ran 2 pots. Sure would make for a endless stream of alloy though.

    2 molds works just right....02
     
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  18. Colorado4Wheel

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    Alright. IF your adding ingots as you go are you fluxing?

    I found if I don't flux my bullets suffer.

    If I let the pot get down 1/4 full and top it off then it does cool down to much and I have to wait. Two pots mean I don't end up waiting.

    If I add one ingot and keep casting my bullet vary sometimes and don't vary other times. It's just not consistent.

    For me it's easier to just run two pots, run one down 1/2 way, switch to the other pot in waiting right after fluxing it. Fill the other pot and let it reheat while I cast the next pot to 1/2 full. Flux it right before I start using it. To me it just seems to be better to flux right before I start casting and not be adding ingots a little at a time and not flux, or add a little at a time and take the time to flux over and over again.
     
  19. GioaJack

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    AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!! :brickwall:


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  20. Colorado4Wheel

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    Jack,
    My lee pot is slow. I could add ingots a little at a time but then for it to work right I have to be fluxing all the time. If I wait for the pot to get to a 75% it's too late to refill it. It will take 5 mins to get back up to temp if I fill it at that point. If I just add a ingot at a time then I will need to flux all the freaking time. I know I could buy a $350 pot but that was more then I wanted to spend. I just don't see how adding a little at a time (fluxing or not) is better then just using two pots and running the pots till they are 1/2 full and switching. Fluxing right before you start casting out of the next pot seems to work better. I really don't see how the suggestions above work as good as they say.
     
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