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carrying two guns concealed

Discussion in 'Michigan Glockers' started by snowdog37, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. snowdog37


    Apr 11, 2005
    I've wondered if there is any law prohibiting carrying a second, or what we would call a "backup" gun provided the individual has a valid CCW? From time to time I think I'd like to have my P32 in my pocket along with my G23 inside the belt, but I always stop short of doing it because I don't want to do something that might mess up my next renewal.
  2. MakeMineaP99

    MakeMineaP99 Got SIG?

    Apr 11, 2002
    N. IN
    Perfectly legal. However, both pistols must be inspected (registered).

  3. You can carry 20 guns if you want.
  4. Some would say this is a gray area. When the law first went into effect our license said "Pistols" permit. It now says "Pistol" permit. Oversight...?

    It's said that there are some DA's out there that want to make a test case out of this...

    All aside, I carry more that one...
  5. Hailstorm

    Hailstorm Boom Shacka

    Jan 7, 2002
    Canton Mi
    I prefer to carry one good one :supergrin:

    My Father carries 3 most times :tongueout: Maybe he needs the extra workout:tongueout:
  6. doublestack9


    Mar 19, 2007
    Omaha, NE
    There is no limit in Nebraska. A fellow shooter is an instructor for CCW, and he had a student who asked that question. When he told the student that there is no limit, the student told him he wanted to carry two 1911s in shoulder holsters, and two J frames in ankle holsters. The instructor told him that it was permitted under NE law. I commented that at least he was balanced :)
  7. Tito


    Jun 3, 2003
    This is correct. It was not an "oversight." The statute says you may carry "a concealed pistol" with your concealed pistol license. The statute was amended by the legislature and all references to "concealed pistols" (plural) were changed to the singular.
  8. The fact that it was changed from "pistols" to "pistol" (which it should have been in the first place, for grammar's sake) does not change the fact that there is no limit in the law.

    You can carry as many as you wish...this is NOT a gray area.
    And if some idiot DA did try to prosecute, it would NEVER stick.

    I wrote to the State Police Reference Desk, and posted the reply somewhere, in which he said that there was no limit.
  9. Ender

    Ender ComfortablyNumb

    May 20, 2001
    no limit. i've carried two more than once.

  10. In Michigan, you may carry as many pistols as you wish, and we finally have a letter from the AG's office that says so.

    This should put to rest the debate once and for all.
  11. Oops...I forgot to attach the letter...Ok, THIS should put the debate to rest:

    Attached Files:

  12. centennial


    Jun 9, 2004
    That letter doesn't clarify anything because it is not an official AG opinion.
    It's not signed by Mike Cox.
    It carries no legal weight.
  13. Oh, give me a break! It does come from the AG's office, and from the State of Michigan, Criminal Division. It would certainly get you off if some idiot prosecutor tried to say otherwise. I swear, some people are just plain paranoid.

    Apparently you didn't read the whole thing...there is a section in the state statute that says that singular also means plural, for any law on the books, unless it says ONE, and only one, or "limited to one", etc.

    And besides, it's not signed by some secretary, it's signed by the Chief Deputy AG, who has the authority to act on his behalf. She could not be giving out opinions that he didn't agree with. I'm sure he has to approve everything going out.

    When both the Michigan State Police (I've already posted that letter) and the AG's office say there is no limit, how much more proof do you want? :upeyes:
  14. zbusdriver


    Jul 21, 2006
    se michigan

    thank you for taking the time to clarify this issue. :thumbsup:

    you'll never convince those with reading comprehension problems. as you and others have already stated: there is NO LIMIT in the michigan CPL statute, and therefore -- THERE IS NO LIMIT!

    the two letters you've produced prove your point very well. the law does NOT impose a limit! but reading comprehension and the inability to reason seem to be a big problem here in michigan.
  15. centennial


    Jun 9, 2004
    I don't need any proof. I carry the number of firearms I feel necessary under any given circumstance. In many instances that is more than one.
    My reading comprehension is excellent.
    I do know for a fact that there are several county prosecutors that are looking for a case of multiple carry with a ccw to try.
    That letter and the opinion of the MSP will not stop them from a prosecution if they find one.
    People need to know that.
    If you knew me, you would NOT say that I'm paranoid.
  16. RS2


    Jun 8, 2003
    I know you, and I would agree with both what you said and how you said it.

    There is a very fine line separating paranoia from preparedness, both on the street and in the courtroom. I find I cross it frequently.
  17. gsbell

    gsbell Consumed

    Feb 21, 2003
    Nolensville, TN
  18. Maybe (and that's a stretch...I don't believe you for a moment), but it would most definitely stop them from winning the case, and therefore, they pay court costs.

    Please tell me what more proof you're looking for? If the AG and State Police aren't enough authority, what would be??

    I've heard this story of prosecutors "looking for a case to try" for a long time, but no one can ever provide proof that it's true. Which prosecutor??? I'd like to give him/her a call. Give me a name and county.

    In the meantime, worry about the real threats to our 2A rights...we have enough of those without making up more!
  19. zbusdriver


    Jul 21, 2006
    se michigan
    we do not need the AG’s opinion because the legal weight is carried in the michigan CPL statute. a bit of paranoia is healthy, but the prosecutor looking for a case sounds like a social rumor. my brother used to be a county prosecutor and is now a federal prosecutor. he and his fellow prosecutors are extremely busy and have little time for such nonsense. there are some rogue prosecutors out there, just as there are rogue cops, teachers and liberians -- but they are the exception.

    usually, something is legal until it is made illegal. i read the entire statute two years ago, before i applied for my CPL: there is NO STATED LIMIT in the michigan CPL statute, and therefore -- THERE IS NO LIMIT!
  20. RS2


    Jun 8, 2003

    Oh, come on! We haven't had problems with the Liberians in years.

    As far as the statutory construction, you might be right. You might not. I don't necessarily disagree with you.

    Ultimately, it is up to the courts to determine questions of law. Not the State Police or the Attorney General.

    And that letter is NOT an AG Opinion.