I have read several threads that conatin phrases like "5 shots is enough" "Why carry a second gun?" "Why carry a spare mag?", etc... This is posted regarding a thread in GnG, but I thought it might be applicable here- http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/03/06/2699585/suspect-killed-during-robbery.html In particular "...The store owner shot at Deas until his pistol was empty, police said. Then he removed a second pistol from his belt and shot at Deas until he was on the ground and not moving, the report said. ..." Several things from this story stood out as appropriate for this forum- Situational awareness Shooting until the threat stopped Multiple attackers Carrying enough ammo Wanna kill these ads? We can help!