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Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by Evan N. Payawal, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. This message came from Benj and K. Please pass on to your loved

    We were CARJACKED

    Hey everyone!
    Last Friday night, or September 9, 2005, at around 11-12
    pm,my boyfriend and I were on the way home. When we
    reached the stretch of Gilmore St., a green Sentra drove up
    alongside the car and shone a spotlight on the driver's side,
    presumably, to blind the driver and force him to stop. Then
    they cut us off and three men armed with m16 rifles came
    down and carjacked us. They took us somewhere then
    transferred us to the Sentra They then took the car, a Honda
    CRV. There were four men with my boyfriend and I in the
    Sentra. They threatened us that if we didn't give the pin
    numbers in our accounts, they would kill us. So we gave
    them our pin numbers and they went around withdrawing our
    money. They also took all the jewelry we were wearing and
    our mobile phones. They dropped us off in Pasay sometime
    around 2 am with nothing but the clothes on our back.
    We're posting the message to warn everyone not to pass that
    area and to watch out for these men. Apparently, this is not
    the first time they have done this. In the past, they shot a
    woman who tried to escape. So everyone, please take care.
    We don't want what happened to us to happen to you.

    Benj and K

    This is not the only one. Mon Tulfo claims in his column there has been an upsurge in similar incidents this past few weeks, probably the same group. He even says he personally fought off an attempt on him some years back, with an FA. Buti pa siya may PTC.
    Am sure the brilliant response of the police generals now will be to order a crackdown on LEGAL FIREARMS carried outside of residence.
  2. horge

    horge -=-=-=-=- Lifetime Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    almost home
    In such a scenario, against three automatic rifles, no PTC can save you.
    Drive well, drive smart, drive safely.

    Is there any way to verify this incident?

  3. Alexii

    Alexii Janeway Forever

    Nov 14, 2001
    Delta Quadrant
    Is Benj the same guy posting here at the BOG? Any chance you know someone who knew the victims? Maybe we can gather more details and further study what took place.
  4. maomanila


    Jul 30, 2005
    Many thanks for your post/alert, Evan.

    I do not wish to burden you further, most especially after this unfortunate incident, but may I ask you some questions? Your answers will definitely go a long way in helping other motorists avoid being carjacked:

    1. Where did you come from, before the carjack? (From a gasoline station, a mall parking lot, etc? I want to know if your CRV was chosen at random while already cruising, or natiktikan kayo when you rode your car.)

    2. Where the carjackers the disciplined military type?

    3. Were they using only the Sentra? Or were there other back-up cars?

    4. Is the CRV darkly tinted?

    Thanks and be well.
  5. Sorry if you misundertood Mao, this message was forwarded to me by somebody who knew these people. Didn't happen to me. She is currently trying to confirm if it is true or not, but I find it believable because this is not the first time I've heard of these recent carjackings. It's prudent to be alert while driving.
  6. Allegra


    Mar 16, 2003
  7. yes, it really is futile to resist against armed robbers carrying automatic rifles and you're just carrying your glock (either equipped with full auto capability or stock)..

    siguro mas maganda, specially those rich people who regularly go to the bank like clockwork should change their banking habits to avoid being watched and studied by these pricks.

    another advice would be to be "mindful" of your surroundings when you go out of the bank, when you go out of your house, check your rearview mirror from time to time, try to look for something unusual like is there a car at your back which you see regularly when you go to work like you're being followed, or late at night when you park your car in your garage..always be alert ika nga.

    Best weapon would be a "Hand Grenade" but its also dangerous on your part. i mean you have to be good in using it. Before these guys can jump on you, the minute they open their car door, assuming that you have already pulled out the throw it inside the car and blast your way out of the scene and watch their car explode. As a ball of fire engulfs the vehicle, of course some of these pricks maybe screaming as they're being burned alive with mangled bodies inside, you stop your car. take your glock out, im sure they can barely fire their automatic rifles on you coz they're in excruciating pain, then you give them each a double tap on their chests to ensure their deaths and send them to hell where they came from. hehehe.. Some imagination huh? well, i've watched too many movies..hehehe

    Stay safe!
  8. vega


    Sep 29, 2001
    Ang sakit mo naman magsalita.;) You must have mean give them each a double tap to relieve them of their suffering.

  9. Benj


    Jul 26, 2005
    Nope, thankfully that's not me :) But I have heard of several instances, here's one I got recently via email:

    Finally, I am able to get over my initial shock, and write about
    my experience. The other Tuesday, Aug. 24, after the fellowship
    following our regular club meeting, I was on my way home to
    Filinvest I.

    Around 12 midnight, my car (a late model Accord), was cut by
    another car with blinkers, and **four men armed with armalites
    aimed their guns at me,** and told me to open my door. First I
    thought they were policemen in civvies who had mistaken me for
    someone else, or whatever. But when they commanded me to board
    their car and demanded my wallet and valuables, I knew they were
    robbers and carjackers. To make a long story short, I was dropped
    at Macapagal Avenue at around 3 a.m. of Wednesday, but not before
    cleaning my ATM account, inflicting harm on my person, threatening
    to kill me, and firing at me (with the intent of scaring me). And
    of course, taking my Accord earlier).

    Classmates, the following day (actually around 9 am of the same
    day, Wednesday) I reported the incident to the Central Police
    District. And lo and behold, I learned that so many incidents
    (about a dozen or more since the beginning of the year) like what
    I went through (remember, we are talking here of carjacking or
    taking your car at gunpoint, not just simple carnappingt!) had
    been taking place in and around the following areas:

    1. Quezon Avenue underpass, crossing EDSA

    2. Dark streets in the areas around Morato and around the West

    3. Some areas in the Teacher's village, etc.

    4. Commonwealth -- although I understand that my case was the
    first one on top of the overpass over Tandang Sora.

    5. Some parts of EDSA - also in Q.C.

    Another, and I just learned this later from non-police sources, is
    the flyover from Libis, going to Katipunan, and also the underpass
    tunnel connected to the flyover. (Here, as in the Quezon
    underpass, the favorite manuever is to sandwich the victim's car
    between two cars, one in front and the other behind.) Other
    carjackings have also taken place in other parts of Metro Manila,
    especially Pasig, but Q.C. is the epicenter of these incidents.

    Favorite time of carjackers (as distinct from carnappers who take
    vehicles while they are parked) is between 11 p.m. and 3 a.m.
    although some carjackings are known to have taken place even
    rgpcp> earlier.

    The day after I was victimized, another similar incident took
    place (probably by the same gang), with a 26 year old woman, the
    daughter of an executive judge of Zambales, as the victim. She
    tried to parry an armalite aimed at her and apparently, the gun
    went off, hitting her on the thigh, shattering her femur. Let's
    pray that she will recover soon, and that she will not lose her leg.

    Before me, it has been rumored that the son of a high official of
    the PNP was almost victimized, but for the fact that his driver, a
    policeman himself, told the robbers he was a policeman, and that
    his passenger is the son of this high official of PNP. (The
    robbers had the temerity to ask for IDs of the two before letting
    them go.) Other victims: a priest, a money changer, a couple with
    a daughter, another couple, etc.

    According to the police, even kidnappings are rising. Let's be
    careful but not fearful. Let's inform our children about what's
    taking place. And maybe suggest to them that, rather than go home
    during those unholy hours (11 p.m. to 3 a.m.) better if they just
    stay where they are or stay with a friend at his or her place,
    rather than go through the no-man's land that is Q.C. (or parts of
    it anyway!).
  10. Wp.22


    Jan 17, 2005
    a supplier of ours was also victimized by car jackers. SHe picked up her cousins and visiting friends from abroad at the airport when they decided to try their luck at the nearby casino filipino in paranaque. She was driving her not so brandnew hand me down car from her boss and her cousin were on the other car. At around 2-3AM when they decided to go home her cousin drove first she was tailing them when suddenly another car cut her path and demanded for the car. But she resisted she backed the car and manuever and flooring the gas the BG fired at her using m16 she got hit in the shoulder. she's now recovering.
  11. well said sir. hehehe...:)
  12. kristiansen

    kristiansen Birdwatcher

    Dec 7, 2002
    on the road again
    if you're going to the bank,change your sked if lunch today,11am on next occassion and 2pm next not bring large sums of money in your person.or wear expensive jewelry etc.

    if possible,refrain from being out in the critical hours and make a detour to avoid these places where reported carjackings/holdups occured.always maintain constant communication with people at home,your kids in school etc.,always remind your family,friends to be on alert everyday,especially when going out.just my 2 cents po.
  13. s.g


    Mar 13, 2003
    I don't like the implication of this.
  14. s.g


    Mar 13, 2003
    There has been a conjecture in one of our local car-forums (sa goonsquad subforum) that you run a greater risk if you go to M_tr_b_nk.

    Ingat na lang.
  15. atmarcella


    Aug 27, 2004
    best defense:

    try to outmaneuver the bg's, be alert, when someone hits you with a spotlight or tries to block your path, try to get away, even if you have a gun with you, even if its also an m16, try to get away first...........ako cguro the only instance i will get out and fight it out is "if", when trying to escape they spray us with bullets, and god forbid x2...x1 million....a loved one gets hit fatally, PUTANG INA NILA!!!! mag patayan na tayo, kahit na naka eskapo nako hihinto pa rin ako, at mag patayan na tayo.

    a rant:

    mga "PI" talaga mga tao na yon, they try to use their poverty or situation in life to justify what they do....i hope they burn in hell x1million.

    ang gobyerno naman natin walang sikmura o lakas loob to implement the death penalty, that's why hindi nauubos ang mga masasamang tao na yan, haaaaaaaaaaaaaay buhay.......
  16. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

    Oct 1, 2002
    relaaaakssss, ang puso mo. ;f

    btw, i totally agree with you.
  17. kristiansen

    kristiansen Birdwatcher

    Dec 7, 2002
    on the road again
    Girl shot dead by robbers

    First posted 07:29pm (Mla time) Sept 14, 2005
    By Edson Tandoc Jr.
    Inquirer News Service

    A 1-YEAR-OLD girl was shot dead while her parents and a maid survived after four robbers blocked and opened fire at their car in Cainta, Rizal on Wednesday morning.

    The family had just withdrawn money from a bank on Marcos Highway and was on its way home to Marikina City, Cainta Police chief Superintendent Gilbert Cruz said.

    The fatality was identified as Erica Charlene Guevarra, daughter of Eric and Rosanna Guevarra.

    Police said Eric was driving the vehicle, a Toyoto Revo, inside the UE Village in Barangay (village) San Isidro, Cainta, when the robbers blocked their path and opened fire.

    A bullet hit the baby, who was on her mother’s lap at the time, in the head.

    The mother and the maid, who was seated at the back, were not hurt, but the father was shot in the left knee.

    The robbers were able to flee with the money.
  18. doctabako

    doctabako Gun Aficionado

    Aug 11, 2003
    Signs of the Times. Hirap ng buhay ngayon, daming walang pera at trabaho, kaya nagwawala na naman ang mga gagong walang ibang alam gawin kundi magnakaw. Ingat na lang mga bro.

    Assess the situation, calculate the risks. If you are armed, shooting it out is always an option(at times, even the first option) as a passive response(although called for in the face of overwhelming odds) isn't always the wise thing to do especially if the BG's are aggressive from the start. Be more confident of your abilities, kaya nga tayo nagdadala at nagpapapraktis e. Taking out multiple targets is doable as long as you keep your head(easier said than done, I know, but better than going down without a fight).

    Unlike before, these thugs are desperate and don't care if they kill you in the process of getting what they want. The first few seconds of the event determine the outcome.

    The best defense is practicing common sense and preventing yourself from being a target. Be aware of your surroundings. Stay away from high risk areas. Tama na muna yang gimik na magdamagan. Pag naubusan ng pera sa gimik, uwi na lang, hindi yung magwiwithdraw pa sa kung saang ATM.

    Dapat kasi itumba na lang lahat ng mga tarantadong iyan pagnahuhuli at di na pinaaabot sa korte. The government should indeed have the balls to implement the Death Penalty as the jails are getting congested with these lowlifes as it is. The worst thing is that these criminals are sometimes let out of prison temporarily to do these jobs. :soap: Just my 2 centavos
  19. toxic


    Jan 15, 2005
    doin' time

    ;f ;f ;f ;f i agree too minsan kase kahit gano kahaba pisi at pasensya mo lalabas ang EVIL side. Its Flight or Fight.

    I dont believe that "Poverty" is the major factor , why those guys do such things(im being a devils advocate here)..KATAMARAN yan...they just want to BIG Bucks-quick..but i give it to those guys..ang lalakas ng loob...Huh katakot..Pumarehas naman po sana tayo para lahat masaya.

    From DocT...criminals are sometimes let out of prison temporarily to do these jobs. Just my 2 centavos

    DocT..sama mo ko ng 2 more centavos..Ginagawa pong negosyo.....nge..katakot ule...