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Discussion in 'Reloading' started by alank2, Mar 23, 2008.
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The NT is the WinClean ammunition manufactured by Winchester. The box states that the brass is non-reloadable.
I have about 7 different types of Fiocchi 9mm rounds in my personal stock, but cases are all stamped GFL. Please check again.
This web site (above) lists F, LE, GFL, PS, and FIOCCHI headstamps for Fiocci. I've never seen the "FIOCCHI" headstamp myself. Got lots of "GFL" in my collection.
I just tried reloading 9mm with "*Geco*" headstamp. It is just as bad as Amerc. I used Lee sizer dies to resize brass fired from Glocks. Most other brass will resize just fine...these two suck! Just throw them away!
Geco is usually very good brass.
In it's factory form, it IS loaded a bit hotter than U.S. standards, but is within NATO spec.
You may have encountered some with a bit harder than normal brass, sort them & try to run them by themselves.
I've loaded several thousand of them & they are prefered (by me) for hi-intensity loadings. I load all of my 9mm on a Lee 1000 press with an undersize sizing die (-.001), which is avaliable from Lee & don't have any problems with them other than an occasional tight primer pocket.
Use nickle plated primers, like CCI & they go easier.
A-Merc on the other hand, DO suck !!
Thats a good sight to have
A word of advice, S&B (Seller & Belloit) 9MM cases have a brass appearance but you may want to use a magnet to just make sure. We sorted a bunch of brass and was supprised to find when we used a magnet to remove the other steel cases that the S&B 9MM brass was also being attracked.
Just ran a powerful magnet over 1000+ 9mm cases recently deprimed. Some were S&B and none reacted to the magnet. Doesn't hurt to check.
The Fiocchi 40 S&W frangible are marked FIOCCHI.
Don't know if they were already mentioned, but Wolf Gold apparently uses the same brass as Prvi (PPU in cyrillic, looks like nny headstamp), so it should be good stuff.
I just sorted through 12,000 9mm cases seperated in the following groups:
I came across quite a few "RG 08" cases that prompted my sorting adventure. They appear to be British, crimped. Does anyone know if the RG is good brass or bad brass?
Can someone help me with values per thousand of each.... I want to "un-load" them rather than reload them.
Any one know anything about this head stamp? L C O A
It is on a federal 5.56
Reading as much info as I can on reloads and Love this thread,
Thank's to all.
RG would be Radway Green. British military. Never shot their 9mm but the 5.56 is good.
Thank you Sir Wilson! The RG gave me a reason to buy a Dillon Swage 600. I can't bring myself to recycle the brass, spend $100 to save $20 :embarassed:
Cabela's has offered to fill my backorder with Winchester .45acp that is not US made. I ordered the Winchester months ago because I wanted good cases to start reloading.
Does anybody know who the maker of this stuff is and what their brass is like? I don't remember for sure but I think they told me it was from Czech.
I have some Fiocchi .40 S&W 170-grain FMJ. The headstamp is FIOCCHI USA but the box says Made in Hungary! I haven't reloaded any of these cases so I can't comment on their quality for reloading.
The only other Fiocchi ammo I have is .357 Mag with the GFL headstamp (made in Italy). I've had good results reloading these cases.
I've got some of each (Fiocchi, GFL) in 9mm. The Fiocchi headstamped brass is from some 147gr FMJ I bought just over 4 years ago from Sportsmans Guide. The GFL has been range pickup brass.
All the steel cases I've seen have been berdan primed. Are there boxer primed steel?
Hmm...I think S&B just made my pitch list. I've been using it for "lost brass" matches and have actually been able to recover most of it recently.
I was just loading some that was a mix of first reload brass and brass I'd already loaded and shot at least once. It was giving me a real hard time on the bell/powder drop station, not wanting to bell, and then not wanting to let go of the powder funnel. When I randomly gaged a few, a lot of them would fall into the gage, but needed to be pushed out. A few wouldn't fall all the way in. It seemed as though the brass was bulging around where the base of the seated bullet was. The Win and FC brass I loaded tonight all dropped in and out of the gage. I ended up gaging all the S&B and most of the Win and FC...and then tried dropping the questionable ones into my dirty G17 barrel. I ended up pulling 6 bullets and tossing 6 primed cases. I think I'll shoot up the S&B I've loaded and not try to recover it.
Tonight was the fist time I've loaded FC brass. It was amazingly easy compared to the S&B. It resized like it wasn't there, and didn't stick on the powder funnel at all.