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Can I talk to some of you republican fellows?

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by frank4570, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. frank4570

    frank4570

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    I'm clearly not a republican. But I'm certainly not a democrat. My team, the libertarians, hasn't been doing so well. So, I'm thinking maybe I should throw in with the repubs and help where I can. If the dems have their way we will all lose our 2nd amendment rights, so supporting the repubs is the best choice as far as I can tell.
    Any suggestions for a local level kind of thing?
     
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  2. G17Jake

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    If you can get connected with the local TEA Party that may be a place to start? I'm not sure how to locate them if you don't know anyone already involved in it.
     
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  3. JBnTX

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    Welcome to the party....:wavey:

    The only way to change things is from within the republican party.

    The holier than thou libertarians who just stand on the sidelines and throw rocks at the republicans will never accomplish anything except divide the republican party and hand the election to the democrats every time.

    For every disgruntled libertarian that refused to vote for Romney, a welfare sucker went to the polls and voted for Obama. And you see the result.

    You have to stay engaged in the fight, even when things don't go your way. Supporting the republican party is the best way to do that.
     
  4. G17Jake

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    I have supported the Republican Party for decades, but I will only support individual candidates.

    One thing for Frank to do is send a letter to the GOP stating that he really wants to support the Republican Party, but only if they have conservative candidates. Tell them as far as he is concerned, insiders like Rove can hit the road.
     
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    I agree with the above posters.

    The best way to fight a bully is to join a gang that has your interests at heart. If your gang has some things they support, that you do not like, work from within to change them. But remember, the greater your numbers, the better your chances of beating down your bully.

    Greater numbers is power, donating money is buying freedom. Politicians are bought and sold. They have no conscience, and you have the same right to buy their favors as anyone else. Donate for your cause. Fight your bullies the same way they fight you, only with more vengeance, fight to win.
     
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    We truly have to compromise our principles if we wish to survive. My principles are libertarian, but I have to cast my lot with the republicans most times because they are the lesser of the evils of the two big parties.

    Vote libertarian where you may have a good chance of winning and republican for damage control and to slow the handbasket when you don't.
     
  7. VinnieD

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    I'd also suggest voting Libertarian when it's safe to do so. If the winner is already clear, vote your conscience. Gary Johnson got my vote here in Mississippi because even if a group of swine were called a flock, republicans will always take this state.
     
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    And Gary is a fine man and a far FAR better choice than Barry the Marxist or Rino Romney. He's the only one who could have actually started fumigating the swamp on Potomac. He kicked ass here in NM as Governor, veto'd hundreds of idiotic bills and balanced the state budget. I fear this country is drunk on spending our children's future and unwilling to take the necessary steps Gary would have brought to the fore.
     
  9. Skyhook

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    I find my alignment with Republicans not so much a love for them nor a great admiration for their humanitarian accomplishments, but rather that of a reasoned choice to have nothing to do with those who call themselves 'Democrats', 'Socialists' or 'Fundamental Transformers'.

    Even within the Republican Party, one will find misdirected people resentful of a freedom- and American-loving person.

    I like George's reflections when weighing weighty things.

    In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
    George Orwell
    Liberal: a power worshipper without power.
    George Orwell
     
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  11. Skyhook

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    :thumbsup: Excellent suggestion! :thumbsup:

    The fight is building into a rage and money is badly needed.

    Folks from other states would do well to know if the war is won in NYS, then it will most likely be kept from their homes & hunting lands.
     
  12. pugman

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    This is the point where the politicians have beaten you. If you are single issue voter (be it abortion, the 2A, gay marriage, etc.) you have also been coned. For the record, I’m not a democrat or republican, conservative or liberal. If someone needs to try and pigeon hole me I always throw them for a loop and say I’m a limited government, free market Libertarian with Anarchistic streaks.

    Thinking of politics as a “team” sport means someone wins and someone loses. Politicians have played the second greatest trick in the history of the world convincing the American populace there are only two parties to vote for. They do a fine job of convincing people they are the last line of defense against the evil other side all along collecting political contributions. If you haven’t noticed, the Democrats have been masters of this for the past 5-6 years.

    I vote Republican when I have no choice. I realize a third party candidate who I think is better but has no chance in h*** of winning might make me feel warm and fuzzy – but in the very end it doesn’t matter.

    If you feel the need to think of this as a team sport (and for the record, I support full contact) your team should be the American Public the opponent is the federal and state government. Republican/Democrat are two sides of the same coin. Libertarian (who I agree with on a lot of platform issues) might pick up a seat or two on a local/state/federal level but they won’t have the financial backing necessary to win elections for the foreseeable future. Truth be told: for the most part money buys elections now.
     
  13. Cavalry Doc

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    I take a different approach. If the race is between a Libertarian, Republican & Democrat, I vote Republican. If the race is between a Libertarian and a Republican, I vote libertarian. That was the case in a lot of races for judge last time.
     
  14. frank4570

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    That's a bit of a trick though. Lots of the republicans who claim the label "conservative" are actually christian statists which is not conservative at all.
     
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    "christian statists and so the labeling continues.

    "christian statists " who on earth thinks like that?!?:dunno:
     
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    Atheist anarchists??? :dunno:
     
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    Atheist statists.
     
  18. JBnTX

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    Christian statists?...:rofl:

    That's a new one. Let's give it a definition:

    A Christian statist is one who scares me because I don't want my activities hindered by the concept of right and wrong, and since I disagree with them they must support big government.

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  19. frank4570

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    It's just a descriptive term. Whatever, there has to be words used to describe christians who want to force americans to follow christian beliefs, by using the govt to do so. Whatever they are, they are not conservatives.

    Barry Goldwater
    "I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
    And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism.""
     
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    You do know that Barry Goldwater is dead and that he said that over 50 years ago?

    Can you name any Christian or Christian group that, "who want to force americans to follow christian beliefs, by using the govt to do so."?

    What exactly are "Christian beliefs"?