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Can a Muslim be a "good" American

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by IGotIt, Sep 29, 2012.

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  1. Was this under Nixon or Ford? Can you give specifics?
  2. Faulty generalization

  3. Blast

    Blast 'nuff said

    Aug 2, 2002
    NKY/Cincinnati area
    I see extremism in the posts of some of the atheists here.
    The Christian majority has been present since the founding of this country. No religious laws have been established in the Constitution and never will. The Constitution guarantees that. As it should be. I don't want religious laws in our government anymore than atheists do.
    You extremest atheists are as bad as wacko conspiracy theorists.
    Majority becoming the minority? Not in your lifetime. So deal with it. :rofl:

    Maybe you should consider drugs. Valium, Xanax, Librium, Paxil, Zoloft.:whistling:
  4. Kentak


    Jan 8, 2006
    Central Ohio
    You left out that other American leftist terror organization, the KKK. Oh, wait, they weren't leftist. How many acts of murder, violence, and intimidation do you figure their various iterations over the years have been responsible for?
  5. Glock36shooter


    May 30, 2010
    I hope you mean that. But there are millions of nutty Christians that want to outlaw abortion without even bothering to come up with a plan to handle 2 million unwanted babies a year. They want to make laws about what you can or can't do on Sunday. They want to establish prayer in schools (indoctrination). They want to ban stem cell research and hold progress back. They want their religion legislated in as many facets of daily life as possible. Doesn't have to be in the constitution in order to effect citizens. The speed limit isn't prescribed in the constitution but there is one on most every public street.

    I'd have to agree. It'll take at least another 50 years before the religious in this nation are below 50%. I think it's at about 75% now. Maybe 72%. But definitely within another 50 years it'll be under 50%. If I live to be 85 I might actually see it. But in the next 100 years it will drop to where you see Atheism now... around 15% to 17%. And that will be the wackiest and nuttiest of the lot (extremists). I hope they behave... but history has taught us that religious people that feel like their faith is being attacked (Whether it is or not) usually become the most blood thirsty killers man has to offer. Wonder if there is a connection there. I hear a lot of you guys say that there is no morality without the bible. As if the bible is the only thing keeping you from being animals. Wonder if there's something to that.
  6. Glock36shooter


    May 30, 2010
    The Mafia are a bunch of good Italian-American Catholics.
  7. Glock36shooter


    May 30, 2010
    How many Christian bombers do you think there might have been 1,000 years ago were the technology available? It can happen again. Christians are not above violence. Look at the KKK. Right now in this nation they are fat and happy. You take away some of that comfort and security... they can become blood thirsty zealots too.
  8. Glock36shooter


    May 30, 2010
    With religion gone... it'd be one less thing to worry about.
  9. Christian Identity
  10. Then why can't gays get married? Why did the LDS have to renounce polygamy before Utah could get admitted into the Union?
  11. tuica


    Apr 28, 2009
    Sir, I am stumped by your arguments - and your "equal" measure of terrorist activities as perpetuated by various radical entities - guess you win! Cheers.
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  12. 1) Gays CAN get married. All they have to do is find a willing member of the opposite sex. What you are talking about is changing the age-old definition of marriage. Once words cease to have meaning on account of libs changing their definition all the time, we'll have chaos. Is that your goal? Are you an anarchist?

    2) You libs often ballyhoo "women's liberation". Does polygamy enhance or take away from women's liberation? Be honest. And "Fish!!!" isn't an answer.
  13. Glock36shooter


    May 30, 2010
    There should be no law that get's it's cue from religion. Period. This is not a Theocracy. This is not a Christian Nation.

    If within polygamy rights a woman can have multiple husbands... yes absolutely. It increases choice. Which is at the foundation of freedom.
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  14. I was responding to,

    That's obviously not true and your response is, you guessed it, another non sequitur. Fish!!!
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  15. Do you think "Fish!!!" isn't a non-sequitur?

    But the topic is, can a Muslim be a "good" American? Let's examine some evidence, scientifically.

    First, today's total of deadly Muslim attacks since 9/11 has now gone up to 19,709. Do we expect "good" Americans to do deadly terror attacks? If not, why are we still letting Muslims immigrate here? Terror is what Islam teaches Muslims to do.

    Next, look at that poor Muslim girl in Arizona who was just in court with her Allahphrenic family -at 19, she had refused an arranged marriage to a 38-year-old man, and so, her father, mother and younger sister burned her face and chest with a hot spoon, and left her tied to a bed for a long time (false imprisonment and torture). Is this the behavior of "good" Americans? If not, why are we still letting Muslims immigrate here?

    Next, look at what just went down in Egypt. Two bearded Muslims saw 4 elementary schoolgirls walking along the sidewalk eating ice popsicles. They knocked the popsicles out of the girls' hands and began yelling at them to be "modest". The girls started crying. Is this "good"? Is this what we want in America?

    Finally, notice that in Pakistan, a Muslim just stabbed his daughter to death "on suspicion of immoral behavior". Got that? Stabbing your daughter to death is okay in Islam, but not suspected "immoral behavior".

    Allah knows best, right? Judging by how you constantly attack counterjihadists, support Islam, and never agree that we need to stop Islamic immigration, that unAmerican phrase must sum up what you think. Against all objective evidence, you conclude that Muslims, with all of their murderous terrorism, honor killings, and misogyny can be perfectly "good" Americans. You welcome jihadic bloodshed on our shores and the end of freedom..but you forget that not all Americans are such unscientific, unreasoning traitors.
  16. nraman


    Dec 9, 2002
    I think it was in Saudi Arabia where the firemen let a girls' school burn rather that touch the girls.
    I hope you realize that people in many groups in the US at one time or another betrayed the trust due to their affiliation to a racial, political, tribal or religious group. Nothing new, different methods used to betray the trust. Christians, Jews and Shintoists are on record having done so.
    Right now we happened to have a Muslim problem.
    The US quietly brought large numbers of Somali Muslims in the US bypassing others waiting for years. Was that smart? I don't think so.
  17. I have stated it is on more than one occasion. It's a meaningless, poorly thought out, irrelevant response to a meaningless, poorly thought out, irrelevant response. It's just shorter than yours.

    And what does any of that have to do with'
  18. Peace Officer

    Peace Officer

    Jun 19, 2007
    The answer to your question is not no but hell no! If you read the Koran it plainly states that if you are not with us then you are against us and as a result you must die! WAKE UP AMERICA! Don't expect any help from our Muslim President,,,, we're all on our own!:rofl:
  19. Well, you got the "meaningless, poorly thought out, (and) irrelevant" part of your post right. I agree.

    As for what does it have to do with this thread's topic, I have no idea. You're the one who wrote it, maybe you can explain.

    Meanwhile, Code Pink has gone to Pakistan to protest U.S. drone strikes. The jihadists that Code Pink lefties are trying to protect have shown their gratitude by threatening to hit them with suicide bombings. Are you a member of Code Pink by any chance?
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