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CA: Man with conceal carry permit stops robbery

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Quiet, Jun 27, 2012.


  1. Quiet

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    Since the media rarely reports on stuff like this...

    Mercury News: 06-25-2012

    Suspect entered a Subway resturant, ordered a sandwhich then brandished a knife and demanded cash.

    A resturant customer, 25 year old male from Vallejo, with a CA conceal carry permit drew his handgun and confronted the suspect.

    The suspect then fled the resturant.

    Police are still looking for the suspect.
     

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  2. IndyGunFreak

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    The sad thing is, in that crazy state.. he'll be "the suspect" and will probably face charges for brandishing. ( I know I'm sensationalizing, but CA never ceases to amaze me)

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    From what I've heard, second had from CHP, the conceal carry permit holder was questioned and released, no charges filed.
     
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    stupid move, I won't act unless he points the knife at me and wants MY money.
     
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    Amen Brother !!
     
  6. TBO

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    Did he talk to the Police?
     
  7. Quiet

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    Yes.
    Responding LEOs detained him (disarmed & handcuffed) and questioned him.
    His statements matched other witness statements and after they verified he had a valid CA LTC permit, he was released (uncuffed & handgun returned).
     
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    Ignorant statement.

    YOU have no idea what the threat perceived by the customer was. THAT is the ONLY justifiable reason to use deadly force, SELF PROTECTION.

    If you use deadly force to protect your money, you will have a jury decide your fate, and they will probably convict you.
     
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    What you guys are missing is that there is a very good chance that this guy got his permit from another section of the state (i.e. he may not live in Vallejo). I know for sure if he lived in Contra Costa County which has the very violent Richmond in it, there is an almost zero percent chance he could have gotten a CCW. So only non-residents visiting Richmond -- one of the most violent cities in the country can have CCW's. I'm not sure about the policies of Solano County, but Vallejo is no picnic either. Perhaps it is hard to get a CCW there, unless you know someone...not sure though.
     
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  10. RussP

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    Here is an image showing the permit issuing status in CA.
     

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    That map is out of date by over four years.
    Some counties got better and some got worse.
     
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    I saw nothing on the map that dated it. If you have a more up to date map, then show it or tell us where it's at.
     
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    Kitty Genovese must have loved people like you.

    The guy's prepared to engage in the negotiations of lives or grave injury for cash. Checked his own life and rights at the door the second he did so; he's not merely breaking in and stealing your neighbor's crap, like what happened when Joe Horn shot those two in Texas.

    But state laws vary, and so do local laws, and so everyone has their own opinion based off of their perceptions of those laws and their perception of the intent and so on and so forth ad nauseum.
     
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    Good for him, sucks the suspect got away
     
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    Incorrect definition for "may issue".


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    The minute he threatens you with deadly force (KNIFE) "FOR" your money, you are not protecting your money, you are protecting "YOURSELF".
     
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    armed americans should be outlawed. they are a threat to the livelihood of honest union members.