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By the tree, you shall know its fruit - PMA Topnotcher shoplifts

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by New_comer, Nov 23, 2004.

  1. Another Gen. Garcia in the making, but this time nipped at the bud.

    What a waste... of our money! :soap:

    What kind of values do they teach there?

    Is the PMA really the Philippine Millionaire's Academy? With that disgusting 'mistah' culture that derails any efforts to eradicate the military ranks from scalawags / bandits-to-be?

    Better burn the whole thing down, before it produces any more of these epitomes of abject national embarrassment! Heck, the ROTC may even be able to produce better officers than these. :soap: /rant off


    Top PMA grad sent home by US academy for shoplifting
    By Jaime Laude
    The Philippine Star 11/24/2004


    A young Army officer who graduated at the top of his class at the Philippine Military Academy (PMA) was sacked from a US military school and sent home in disgrace for alleged shoplifting.

    And for allegedly stealing a compact disc (CD) worth a measly $12.95, the military career of 2Lt. Rolly Joaquin, valedictorian of PMA Class 2004, now hangs in the balance as he was placed under arrest on his return here last Oct. 28 to face court martial.

    Army spokesman Maj. Bartolome Bacarro said Joaquin was dismissed from the US Army Infantry School at Fort Benning in Georgia where he had been sent for an officer’s training course.

    Joaquin reportedly removed a 50-cent discount tag from a sale item and attached it to a $12 CD that he purchased from a store there.

    "There was (a) sale in one of the stores and apparently, he interchanged the tag price of $0.50 attached to compact disc on sale and placed it over the $12.95 tag price on another CD which is not included in the sale," Bacarro said.

    He said Joaquin was monitored by the store’s closed-circuit camera which led to his arrest.

    As topnotcher of his class, Joaquin received a study grant from the United States Military Assistance Group (JUSMAG) for the Basic Officers Course at Fort Benning.

    Joaquin was also the first among all PMA graduates to have delivered the valedictory address during their graduation early this year.

    "On October 26, the Philippine Army received an information from the JUSMAG... that (a) Filipino student of the Infantry Officer Basic Course held at Fort Benning is being sent back to the Philippines by the US Army Infantry School after having been apprehended for shoplifting," Bacarro told a news conference yesterday.

    He said Joaquin will be immediately restricted to quarters at Fort Bonifacio upon his arrival from the US.

    And if probable cause is established in an ongoing inquiry, Joaquin could be put on trial in a military tribunal for conduct unbecoming an officer, Bacarro said.

    "Independent from possible court-martial proceedings in violations of Articles of War 96 and... 97, subject officer can also be administratively charged under the (military’s) Efficiency and Separation Board," Bacarro said.

    The shoplifting case is the latest black eye for the Armed Forces following the controversy generated by the corruption trial of retired Maj. Gen. Carlos Garcia and an Army major who is under investigation for allegedly soliciting oral sex from military recruits.

    The latest scandals also focused on the quality of graduates produced by the country’s premier military institution.

    "It’s not the quality of education at the PMA at question here, but rather it has something to do with personal character," Bacarro said in response to questions over PMA graduates.

    Joaquin’s case cropped up barely four days after a videotape of Army Maj. Ferdinand Ramos, a member of PMA Class ’88, was shown on national television in an "compromising position" with an Army trainee.

    The military said the videotape would be used as evidence in filing the appropriate charges against Ramos.

    Ramos, a trainer assigned at the Army’s Light Armor Brigade (LAB) in Capas, Tarlac, was also ordered restricted to quarters pending investigation of his case publicized by a certain Richard who claimed to be one of his victims.

    Bacarro said the LAB’s Provost Marshal would start conducting the investigation on Ramos to establish probable cause for another possible court martial.

    Bacarro downplayed the two latest controversies involving Army officers, saying they were "isolated" in the 70,000-strong command.

    He also assured the Army leadership will slap appropriate sanctions against erring officers.

    "The Army leadership would like to take this opportunity to assure the public that these matters will be addressed accordingly and that appropriate punishment shall be meted out commensurate to the offense committed," Bacarro said.

    "These two unfortunate incidents involving two Army officers (are) not representative of the entire Philippine Army as an organization, it is not representative of the more than 70,000 Army personnel.

    These are isolated incidents involving individual acts," Bacarro further said. — With AFP report
     
  2. PMMA97

    PMMA97 MNSAmessdetail

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    Burn the whole thing down? If a UP grad becomes corrupt should we burn the institution down? If we utilize this idea there will be nothing left in the Philippine government. ;)

    The PMA is under attack from the lousy bugs in it's ranks. I think that the best option would be that they consider graduating the 2004 to 2008 classes and start anew beginning with class 2009.

    But thats just me. Im not a mistah nor do I try to imply that I understand what goes on behind the walls of Fort Del Pilar.

    Dapat habang naka restrict sa quarters kabugin ng kabugin gawing plebo ulit! ;f
     


  3. julianz

    julianz toxic master

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    in a freshly harvested apple or kamatis meron talagang naliligaw na bulok , pag di itinapon yung bulok ..mabubulok na rin yung iba. tsk tsk tsk ano ba yan? ano pa kayang kahihiyan ang ibibigay sa bansa in this matter the AFP ng iilan, just look at the bright side it means close circuit camera is 100% fool proof and should be installed in all malls in PI baka may mahuling politician na naninikwat;f
     
  4. bagito

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    Dapat habang naka restrict sa quarters kabugin ng kabugin gawing plebo ulit! ;f [/B][/QUOTE]

    hidi lang kabug kailangan nyan; ^d ^d ~1 ~1

    tanong natin kay Julianz kung ano ang ginagawa sa mga magnanakaw sa saudi. ;z ;z
     
  5. doctabako

    doctabako Gun Aficionado

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    What the hell was that guy thinking!!! Another promising career(doing what.., I don't know ;f) down the drain. Stuupiddd ^8
     
  6. julianz

    julianz toxic master

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    hindi lang kabug kailangan nyan; ^d ^d ~1 ~1

    tanong natin kay Julianz kung ano ang ginagawa sa mga magnanakaw sa saudi. ;z ;z [/B][/QUOTE]

    PINUPUTULAN !!!!

    Depende kung ano ang value ng sinikwat
    kung mura DALIRI lang
    kung Mahal Buong kamay
    dapat eh mauso sa Pinas to mas mura kesa lethal injection or i'm sure you will all agree Firing SQuad kung nagtitipid eh di Reload gamitin.
     
  7. Alexii

    Alexii Janeway Forever

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    A government's nightmare, pure and simple. This guy is suppose to represent the best soldiers our country has to offer, worthy of emulation and admiration. And we spend two million pesos per PMA cadet?!

    What a shame. What a loss.
     
  8. kristiansen

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    He should be hanged in smokey mountain or payatas! coz that's what he is,GARBAGE! and this guy is a fresh graduate of PMA? court martial....NO! let us see his blood! (rant off)
     
  9. 9MX

    9MX Rei!

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    he should be tasked to live with pma batch 88 grad maj. ferdinand ramos. who plays wifey is up to them;z
     
  10. s.g

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    It's bad enough that he was a PMA grad.

    What's worse, VALEDICTORIAN pa yun ng batch nila!

    :soap:
     
  11. Di pwedeng dismissal lang ang parusa nyan.

    Dapat isoli nya lahat ng itinustos sa kanya. Two million kesos pala ha...

    Pati yung syokeng kabo at si General corrupt-cia. With 10% per annum interest...

    Para mag-tanda!

    Tapos putol daliri o kamay o leeg, proportionate to the crime committed :soap:
     
  12. jerrytrini

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    Shoplifters come from all walks of life. I arrested a nurse (Pinay)
    for stealing a blouse IIRC $20.00. A nurse in the US makes $40.00 dollars minimum.....oh well.

    IMHO, the "Philippine Millionaires' Academy" should revisit their curricula and dedicate more in Values, Integrity and Respect (if they do not have these). I went through OCS for 11 weeks and half of the class time was devoted to integrity and moral values of an Officer and a Gentleman.
     
  13. jerrytrini

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    Correction!!!!that's $40.00 per hour not including night differential.
     
  14. asintaderoche

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    If i remember right, it was put in the news here in USA that since 9-11 american spend 80% of their life now under the camera. which means don't ever think about doing stupid. i fell sorry for this mal educated student. but i'm happy he got caught early, i don't want a stupid theft general in the future. hirap lang baka makalusot pa sa Pilipinas. bartolina agad.
     
  15. PMMA97

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    This maybe off topic but let me share an article I first saw in the plebes and cavaliers yahoo groups and other PMA forums regarding the current PMA mentality and other foreign service academies.

    Three monkeys are placed in a large cage. Experimenters put in a banana on a string above the monkey's reach. Every time a monkey makes an attempt to get the banana, all three monkeys are sprayed with cold water. After a little bit (and a lot of cold water), the experimenters put away the water hose. Now, each time a one monkey jumps up and tries to get the banana, the other two beat the living hell out of the jumper. Finally, all of the monkeys finally get smart and stop trying and just sit there. The banana hangs over their head, and none of them go for it.

    The experimenters then bring in a new monkey from a different room. They exchange the new monkey for one of the monkeys in the cage. The new monkey looks around, sees the two other monkeys, but is more interested in the food hanging slightly overhead. He thinks, "Hey, cool. A banana." He jumps up for the banana, then gets the piss beat out of him by the two originals (those cynical bastards). "Why," this new monkey thinks, "are they doing this to me? In the real world, wouldn't it make sense to go for free food? Isn't that normal?" But this new monkey quickly decides that the food is not worth getting beat up. So the three monkeys sit in the cage, scratching their butts and not doing a whole lot.

    The experimenters, after a few minutes, decide to bring in another new monkey. They put him in the cage and take out one of the original three. Now there are two new monkeys, and only one original left. The newest monkey sees the goods overhead, and makes a go for it, only to find that this action is not acceptable in this cage. After getting kicked around for a while, he stops going for the banana, and the monkeys resume doing nothing in the cage. The banana swings dauntingly overhead.

    Just for kicks, the experimenters bring in another new monkey and exchange him for the last original monkey. Almost right away, he goes for the food-on-a-string and gets beat up by the other two monkeys. Those two monkeys have no idea why they are beating the crap out of this other monkey, but that's the way they learned things, and by God, that's how things are going to be done in this cage. And so this cycle continues-with each new monkey, the tradition of beating is passed on for any attempt made for the food swinging overhead.


    And so it is at PMA - with each new class, the previous and older classes beat the hell out of the new guys, either physically or mentally or whatever just because the new guys are trying to be normal. Being normal at the Academy is simply unacceptable and deserves punishment. The upper classes don't know why they beat the living hell out of the lower classes, but they continue to do what they do because that's just the way things are done.
     
  16. ;P I see...

    That would probably explain why they tend to act like total retards when they are mingled with regular citizens in society. The values beaten into them are nowhere near acceptable social mores and norms.

    Worse, they may have also been subjected to the thought that PMA'ers are supposed to be on top of the social food chain, and us regular Juans and Pedros are but prey to toy with.

    Enough of these conjectures... Like I said earlier, better 'burn' the whole thing down, symbolically of course ;): Scrap their educational system, the 'mistah' culture, predatory pre-disposition, a distorted superiority complex. I mean, doesn't the PMA faculty know how to inculcate the concept of civilian authority over the military?

    One solution I'm thinking would be to flush their system clean of these misguided traditions. Let government appoint a whole new set of directors from the civilian sector instead of ex officers past their prime: educators from the scientific, religious, finance, business, and legal sectors. Let them overhaul the entire curriculum by putting more emphasis on being productive members of society in general, but with a more generous share of military discipline compared to civilian educational institutions.

    Also, fielding our best and brightest to the frontline of a useless battle in Mindanao just to be killed by bandits is the most stupid training regimen they still do today. Remember that kid killed in Lamitan? What now of the people's investment in that kid? To become duckshoot target is by no means a way for us to optimize on his potential as a leader. Better round up the addicts, murderers and thieves in Bilibid and set them free in the frontline, along with a single shot pistol with one bullet. Whether they fire at themselves or at the enemy is entirely up to them.

    Led by Major Syoke and Gen. Corrupt-cia, of course. ;)
     
  17. bass one

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    PAGCOR casinos have a multitude of CCTV cameras...where the hell is the intel guy who exposed Erap's VIP gambling stints in Heritage hotel??? Your guess is as good as mine...;I

    To those who have never entered and have no idea of what's going on inside pagcor, let me educate you a little.

    I used to be a table supervisor in PAGCOR. It is posted in the rules and regulations board before entering the casinos that GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER THE CASINOS. I can name A LOT of topnotch politicos (senators, congressmen, govs, mayors, etc.) and military men (lots of generals) who play regularly and lose hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pesos in one night alone! AGAMs (Asst. Gaming Area Managers) ALWAYS write down the names of the people, especially high rollers/VIPs playing in his pit, including their estimated capital and win loss per game/day. There's also 1 cctv cam per 3 tables. What I'm driving at here is, if the gov't is really intent in going after erring officials they don't have to look elsewhere...
     
  18. Allegra

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    And so it is at PMA - with each new class, the previous and older classes beat the hell out of the new guys, either physically or mentally or whatever just because the new guys are trying to be normal. Being normal at the Academy is simply unacceptable and deserves punishment. The upper classes don't know why they beat the living hell out of the lower classes, but they continue to do what they do because that's just the way things are done. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Sa forums nila , they dont know why may hazing sila?
    Pareho lang sa Frat yan
    Pinag hihirapan, only the mentally tough survives, and those who do feel a sense of accomplishment and belonging at Loyalty sa institution.
    Dont ask me how,I'm not a psychologist, it just does.
    Parang stockholm syndrome siguro haha

    Iba naman ang gradustes ng PMA sa other schools.
    Pag hindi nila kinaya pressure ng upperclassmen, baka bumigay yan sa pressure ng Abu sayaff etc .
     
  19. ogiebb

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    The guy who exposed Erap's vids was a good Frat brod of mine ...he was never found....God rest his soul.