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Bushmaster ACR coming out before Remington ACR???

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by mangkukhan, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. Well it's official Bushmaster has the countdown clock for about midnight tonight to be the release of the new Bushmaster ACR. It's sounding off however at over 8lbs with a 1:9 twist and tagged with a $2700 msrp. Remington quoted the msrp at $2300 originally which is obviously high, and the twist rate listed for the Remington ACR is 1:7. Magpul's reps are also commenting on the listed weight as being too high. Not sure what to make of it unless Bushmaster is putting to market a rifle that isn't what Remington will market to the military and law enforcement. I really hope if this is what Bushmaster is dropping on the market then Remington puts out one as well with better barrels and hopefully weighing less. For four times the cost of a basic AR they better get their **** together. Just another reason for me to keep looking at an XCR.

  2. deMontacute

    deMontacute NRA Member

    Oct 15, 2007
    Unless you are buying on LEO letterhead or .mil, you will not be allowed to place your unwashed hands on the Remington version.
  3. RMTactical

    RMTactical CLM

    Oct 7, 2000
    Behind an AR-15
  4. furioso2112


    Dec 12, 2007
    If that's true (and I believe it is), then....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Somebody got their hopes up when they saw the FN SCAR sell for $5k or whatever when the first few trickled in last year about this time.

    No offense to whomever wants one/buys one/whatever, but I gave up on the idea about 4 seconds after I learned that Magpul turned it over to a corporate-owned entity.

    Interchangeable barrels - how many does it come with at that price tag? Is that for .308 and 5.56 (or did they actually just chamber it for .223 for the civvies?)? If it comes with a couple cases of ammo for each caliber and 15 mags each caliber, well then, it's probably a deal. Maybe it is anway. I haven't followed it for months.

    Edit: Okay, just went to the BM site. No info on it (I didn't look too hard), but I saw no specs. It looks like it is piston-driven, folding UBR stock, PMag, Magpul grip, monolithic rail. Some nice features, and unless they changed from the original design 'leaks' then it is ambidextrous controls and all. Not going to part with $2700 for one. All I can think of is what I could build/put together for that price.

    I wonder how long before the .22LR version comes out?
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2010
  5. Quiet

    Quiet Casino Goon

    Cerberus Capital Management Group owns Remington and Bushmaster.
    Remington is handling all military and government sales.
    Bushmaster is handling all civilian sales.
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2010
  6. Quiet

    Quiet Casino Goon

    Note parts in bold.

  7. Atlas

    Atlas transmogrifier

    Oct 1, 2001
    north of the equator
    Yeah, the price is extreme, especially since it was designed from the beginning to be easy to manufacture.

    I think the basic AR does a fine job, but if the ACR doesn't eventually become the US military's new issue rifle, then something is wrong somewhere. That rifle/carbine is smart, just plain smart. It's one of the most carefully and creatively designed firearms ever.

    I admit to wanting one for myself, but a plain AR will do everything I need.
    What I want even more is for this thing to prove itself and be issued to our troops, because as good as the AR/M16 is this rifle should prove to be better, much better and I want our military to have the best.

    Time will tell.
  8. Chuck TX

    Chuck TX CLM

    Jul 11, 2003
    Republic of Texas
    1/9 twist and those prices just for the basic? That's two major failures right there. :faint:

    If that's true they really dropped the ball. Not surprised since Magpul turned it over to Bushmaster. Bet it has a nice finish though. :rofl:
  9. BEER

    BEER bad example

    May 2, 2006
    Dayton, Texas
    for 2700 i can get a "used"* piston ar with all the bells and whistles already installed, spare mags, and probably some ammo. the acr is officially off my wish list.

    by "used" i mean some schmuck sank 3k into a rifle he only wanted because everybody else on arfcom had one, then his wife found out and skinned his ass so he put a box of ammo through it and now has to let it go for 2k. lol
  10. Krigloch

    Krigloch BACONEER

    Mar 18, 2007
    Springfield, IL
    I was all for saving up for an ACR, but there's no way im throwing down that much for a rifle.
  11. RMTactical

    RMTactical CLM

    Oct 7, 2000
    Behind an AR-15
    Change comes slowly in the military unless something shows a clear cut advantage over what is being currently used. There is nothing with a huge upside over the M16/M4 platforms. I don't see those being replaced any time soon.
  12. ScrapMetal


    Oct 27, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa
    Count me out with that bummer!
  13. NeverMore1701

    NeverMore1701 Fear no Evil Platinum Member

    Jun 25, 2004
    Amarillo, Tx
    Damn. When Magpul first announced the Masada I thought it was really cool concept with a very good chance of being great. As more time passed, more "progress" was made, the less interested I became. Now, on the eve of it's release, I couldn't care less. Sad.
  14. jetdefiant


    Nov 16, 2008
    if the current info continues to hold true, then bushmaster really really dropped the ball. This could have been epic
  15. Chuck TX

    Chuck TX CLM

    Jul 11, 2003
    Republic of Texas
    Word is the dealer cost is going to be ~$2100 for the basic model (no folding stock, etc.). It truly is way over priced and the $2700 MSRP was real after all. As much as or more than the SCAR for less features and the wrong twist. I knew they'd screw something up, but over $2K for sub-par? Just damn. Bushmaster FTL!

    Wonder what Magpul is thinking right about now.
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2010
  16. mvician

    mvician Lifetime Member

    Jun 8, 2007
    NW Indiana

    my thoughts/feelings exactly
  17. Justin1911


    Feb 5, 2006
    Northeast GA
  18. Krigloch

    Krigloch BACONEER

    Mar 18, 2007
    Springfield, IL
    The thing is, WHO is going to actually buy this thing?
    Makes no sense.
  19. RMTactical

    RMTactical CLM

    Oct 7, 2000
    Behind an AR-15
    Almost nobody. This rifle went from extremely promising to almost a joke. It could have been big but the price tag and a few other things simply killed it.