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BUG revolver: exposed hammer, shrouded, or concealed?

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by sharpshooter, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Member Millennium Member

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    What are your thoughts on the different hammer options for S&W J-frame type revolvers? (never owned a J-frame before but will soon)

    Exposed "looks" better and is easier to cock the hammer. Could possibly hang up on a draw from a pocket etc. Is that really a concern or a made up one?

    Internal or concealed is the smallest and is probably the easiest to retrieve from a pocket. Can't cock the hammer at all. DA only.

    Shrouded is probably a mix of both but looks odd, humpback. At least you have the option to cock the hammer for a head shot etc when you need accuracy.
     
  2. Don't know if it's a "made up one" or not but I still carry an "exposed hammer" snubby every day "pocket carry". Good old Steel framed .357mag Taurus 605 and never had the hammer catch anything on the draw. But I've also trained myself to draw with my thumb ON the hammer so it's pretty unlikely anything can catch on the hammer, which is the point.

    If you spend the time to practice your draw it shouldn't really matter what model you carry, muscle memory should take over if you have it down pat. Thumb on the hammer and there isn't much left to catch on. YMMV

    PS: If you don't want to take the time to train or it really bothers you that much buy a Shrouded Hammer model and forget it.
     


  3. MeefZah

    MeefZah Cover is Code 3

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    Concealed (as in 442 / 642), in part to keep pocket crap from getting in the action. It also makes the draw much easier. Of the three, I also prefer the look of the concealed. The DA only is no issue, you can stage the trigger pretty easily for accuracy.
     
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  4. Bruce M

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    I prefer a J frame with a hammer and by policy always use a holster with a thrumb break.
     
  5. Internal or shrouded for me.


    My J-frame is a 442. I would have been tempted to buy a 438 instead if S&W would make them without the lock.
     
  6. Kadetklapp

    Kadetklapp Methberry PD

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    I prefer my exposed hammer on my Rossi 461 .357 snubby. I've had it since '03 and carry it IWB with no issues.
     
  7. alwaysshootin

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    This! Believe it! Ever carried an old fashioned pocket knife? How bad was the pocket lint after a day or two of carry? 442/642, look no farther!:cool:
     
  8. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

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    I carry a 442 which is a concealed hammer model. I think the shrouded hammer would be okay also. I do not care for the exposed hammer on the jframes.
     
  9. 3Speedyfish3

    3Speedyfish3

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    S&W 442 daily. I have two beautiful Colt Cobras, but I hate the idea of putting the ugly shroud on them to cover the hammer.
     
  10. krathis

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    J Frame S&W 442 for years. Recently bought a Keltec PF9 but still prefer the J-frame.
     
  11. Davidkxx

    Davidkxx Armed Response

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    I carry internals or shrouded. In cold weather I have one in each outer coat pocket. The lack of exposed hammer allows me to shoot through the pocket if needed. The fastest draw is no draw!
     
  12. Arvinator

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    For years, I wore my S&W Model 60 with exposed hammer in a ankle holster, with the thumb break snap. I also wore a S&W Model 642 strapped to my body armor panels and a "Hidden" backup.
    Today, I still wear the Model 642, and Model 38 "Bodyguard" with the hump back in my rear pocket in a pocket holster.
    While I will always really like my model 60, I like the Models 38 and 642 for quicker draw with less chance of a hammer snag. I also do all my revovler shooting double action, and I wear holsters toady that are molded fit and do not require a thumb snap. IF a policy requires it, I bet you could find one that would work with a "Hammerless" snubbie.
    I have worn a snubbie for over 20 years, they are excellent little backup guns. Good luck on yours!
     
  13. Glockwork Orange

    Glockwork Orange

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    I prefer the shrouded...I carry a 638...like to have the option of a SA shot...it boils down to personal preference...
     
  14. DonGlock26

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    IMHO- Go concealed hammer- 442 or 642. I prefer the black 442. Pockets are lint-filled places. The hammer-less design (it's actually hidden the gun) keeps the lint out of the action.

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  15. blueiron

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    I carried both a shrouded Model 38 for years and switched to a Centennial Model 640. I liked them both, but the single action capability of the shrouded models is a bit overstated. It is designed for short range engagements, not for 25 yards.

    If you pocket carry it, you must NEVER put coins in the same pocket as the holstered gun. A coin can slip into the slotted hammer-track and prevent the revolver from firing.
     
  16. MeefZah

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    Good advice is to never carry anything in the same pocket as your gun.
     
  17. DaBigBR

    DaBigBR No Infidels!

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    Circling the wagons.
    For a BUG, in order of preference:
    1) Internal (Centennial)
    2) Shrouded (Bodyguard)
    3) Exposed (? Chief's Special ?)

    I know one guy that opts for the bodyguard type hammer because the frame on the centennials (42, 442, 642, 340PD, etc) beats the hell out of one of his knuckles.
     
  18. CAcop

    CAcop

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    He said everything I was going to say.

    The exposed hammer is better if you are going to carry it on a belt holster or shoulder holster with a thumbsnap.
     
  19. SCSU74

    SCSU74 St. Cloud Proud

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    i carry a 637 (Chief's special, exposed hammer) and really like it. I have no issues drawing it and have never had an issue with the hammer snagging. On duty i carry it in an uncle mikes vest holster. Off-duty i use a blackhawk size 0 pocket holster. I like being able to shoot the gun in single action as the double action in these guns is brutal. just my 2 cents.
     
  20. Glock21Owner

    Glock21Owner NRA Life Member

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    I've been carrying a S&W Model 49 for almost 20 years, highly recommend one