I got to shoot a box of the BB 180gr Gold Dots today. WOW!! Very impressive, in all my 10mm shooting I have done, this is the first full power stuff I have ever tried. Quite accurate, but my shot to shot recovery was certainly slower than with the Silvertips. I am thinking of making this BB load my carry round when I am on my mountain bike up in black bear/wolf country. But first, I need to shoot some more and get used to the snap.