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Buffalo Bore .45 Caliber Ammo Question

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Coffee Dog, Jul 19, 2010.

  1. Coffee Dog

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    I have tried calling and e-mailing Buffalo Bore Ammo to see if they are using Speer Gold Dot components to make their .45 caliber ammo. They do not get back to me. I know a few years ago they were using Speer Gold Dot components, but I have heard a rumor that they may be using Montana Gold components now. Does anyone know what Buffalo Bore is making their .45 caliber ammo with today?

    Thank you for your time and attention. Time to grab a cup of coffee!:wavey:
     

  2. ColCol

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    I can tell you this. It's some hot stuff. I rented a H&K USB Compact in 45 and had no ammo at the moment so, I bought a box of their 230 gr +P goodies and you could definitely tell it was +P...more so than Ranger T 230 +P for sure.
     
  3. hurley842002

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    I looked at some BB 230gr +P, at Sportsman's Warehouse a couple weeks ago, and the bullets were Montana Golds. Thats not to say BB is only using MG bullets, but that's what they sent Sportsman's.
     
  4. fredj338

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    It's the problem w/ boutique ammo companies, you never know what you are going to get. I think DT had an issue switching bullets in some of their line. Stick w/ the majors, thye produce their own bullets & you'll KNOW what you are going to get. Besides, IMO, +P in the 45acp just isn't needed, 50-60fps only adds recoil.:dunno:
     
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  5. Unless you're comparing 9mm vs .357SIG. :rofl:

    Bob :cowboy:
     
  6. fredj338

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    Yeah, but the best 9mm+P loads still fall 100fps from the 357sig & recoil is not an issue w/ any high speed 9mm IMO. Besides, the 9mm needs all the help it can get. But you know that.:yawn:
    BTW, the BlackHills 9mm+P 124grXTP is a very good load. Breaks 1220fps in my G26. Not bad, the best 357sig load in my P239 only does 1300fps. Still 80fps short in sim size pistols, but a worthy load.:supergrin: recoil & blast are sim.
     
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  7. What are you're handload numbers for the 2 calibers?

    HS-7/124gr Gold Dot (and later 125gr Gold Dots) from a G17, 1289fps, ES 32fps, SD 12fps. Using Speer #14 as reference, still under 0.2grs til max load.

    I still prefer the high flying 125gr XTP/.38Super numbers (less recoil than the G17), well past 124gr XTP blow-up velocities. :supergrin: Just had to add that last part. :tongueout:

    230gr Gold Dot performs well, even at elevated velocities; it's not right for companies to substitute components w/o changing the box labeling.

    Bob :cowboy:
     
  8. fredj338

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    With Unique & WSF, I have run to 1250fps w/ 124gr RGS or Rem JHP in the G17. Probabley max. About the same for BlueDot. I have some HS7, but since it's no longer available, not gonna work loads up for the 9mm. Lingshot is promising for high vel loads, just haven't gone there.
    In the 357sig, Longshot is working pretty well for me right now, easily getting to just under 1400fps in a 4.5" USP. BlueDot works, as does HS7 & AA#7, AA#9 too, but not a fan of it.
    Int he 45acp, I rarely load above std vel levels, just not needed for anything I want to do with it. It's all practice ammo for me, I carry factory loads.