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Brookfield WI Spa Shooting- Local PD getting blasted in the media...

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by kayl, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. kayl

    kayl

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    As I'm sure most of you are aware, some ******* whose wife was leaving him threw the ultimate temper tantrum and went to her work and shot her and 2 co-workers to death and wounded 4 more.

    The local media has been all over the department (not my dept) from the village where AH and his wife used to live...see articles below.

    The main point of contention is a verbal DV call where the husband locked the door in officers' faces and then pointed what officers thought was a long gun towards the victim while they interviewed her outside. After a 1.5 hour standoff, the department stood down and left.

    Thoughts? Personally, I'm of the opinion that the criticism is justified, as much as I hate to see the media crucify a department...

    http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/wa...-village-officials-say-2g7bqh2-175901891.html

    http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/wa...own-deer-home-20-times-9k7bglu-175720831.html

    http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/wa...the-public-experts-say-4c7aueu-175533261.html

    Report for stand-off: http://www.browndeerwi.org/cm/pdfs/press release attachment.pdf
     
  2. SPDSNYPR

    SPDSNYPR Zippy's Friend.

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    Sounds like the supervisor at the scene didn't want to make any waves when the suspect pointed a rifle or shotgun at his wife, and decided to leave. There is plenty of spineless admin out there who don't want to make "waves" or a "scene." This is the outcome of this sort of thinking, IMHO. Of course, calling out a tac team to get him into custody, and this guy getting prosecuted at the time may not have kept him from twisting off later - but we'll never know. I'd rather err on the side of not letting dangerous people go about their business unhindered. That kind of thinking as kept me at the patrolman level for the better part of two decades, so what do I know? I'm obviously not admin material.
     


  3. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    On a DV call if I saw the spouse\significant other pointing what looked like a gun at the victim his\her ass would be in Jail, period.
     
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  4. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

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    Period?

    No, both the hospital and the morgue are viable alternatives to jail.
     
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  5. Wow !!!
    For those not familiar with the Milwaukee area... Brown Deer is definitely the kind of town where "Those things don't happen here". Not excusing the tail between the legs and leaving response, but I'm sure the chief was more worried about image than being the police.
     
  6. RetailNinja

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    This. What a bunch of RODs.
     
  7. ray9898

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    Don't see us just 'walking away' from something like that if the media is reporting it correctly. However, lost of other factors such as the officers not being positive they saw a weapon coupled with an uncooperative victim could play a factor.
     
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  8. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    The media never gets anything right, and most of the time on purpose. I have been involved is some significant incidents that got media attention, and I thought to myself when I watched the report-were we even in the same place? Or even the same planet?
     
  9. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Touche!

    :supergrin::wavey:
     
  10. Ohio Cop

    Ohio Cop

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    Yeah, we wouldn't be walking away from that here either.

    I laid in a ditch with an 870 covering the rear of a duplex one morning for three hours because of a suicidal male after a domestic.


    Do it right or don't do it at all.


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  11. golls17

    golls17 Lifetime Newbie

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    Actually, this time the media got it pretty darn accurate. At least, so it seems after comparing the media to the police report.

    Sent from my Sprint Milky Way Galaxy S...
     
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  12. merlynusn

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    If the media is reporting it right, then yes, the police deserve to get blasted. If I thought someone pointed a long gun at a DV victim, we'd resolve that issue that night.

    If it turned into a barricade, then we have procedures for that.
     
  13. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    We have something we use in that situation called a Bearcat...we set up a perimeter and start taking out walls till he decides to come out...

    Horrible failure of spineless LE if true.