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Brit SAS caliber upgrade

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Snowman92D, Mar 19, 2013.


  1. Snowman92D

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  2. SCmasterblaster

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    The Brits lead the way in ammo reform! :cool:
     

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    It's a wonder the SAS didn't make this change sooner.
     
  4. Glock19Fan

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    Most American troops already have multiple 7.52x51 weapons in combat. However, they realize the huge firepower advantage the 5.56 has, so they keep the 5.56 and 7.62 weapons in a 1:4 ratio.

    As of last year, most SOF were using a 1:3 ratio. Personally, I wouldnt want to give up the 5.56 especially now that better ammunition choices are available.

    There have been plenty of insurgents hit by 7.62x39 as well as 51 and continued fighting. Opium and determination is one hell of a drug. The 5.56 does excellent given a decent round.
     
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    Good for them... Not talking down about the 5.56, but I can easily see where a SCAR 7.61x51 is tough to argue against...
     
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    The British have always been slow to catch on. Why, I remember back in 1776..........
     
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    I wonder if there are a lot of terrorists wounded by 5.56mm rounds, needing extensive medical treatment, and suffering for years with nagging injuries. That, in itself, would be a benefit in my book. Don't hear much of anything on this subject, though.
     
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    I have a Sig 556 and a FNAR (308). The only experience I have is hunting and of course I was using 150 core-lokt (not a fmj). There was no compraison between them on 150# feral pigs at CQB ranges. The 308 was Thor's Hammer.

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    I know nothing about stopping a drug induced determined bad guy with 168 gr fmj. I can see where it is putting more than twice the muzzle energy
     
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    Maybe they will bring back the Bren LMG in .303 . . . . .
     
  11. John Biltz

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    Lot of misinformation in that article. I think the key thing might well be their no lead "ethical" rounds.
     
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    And just how can an anti-personnel bullet be "ethical?"
     
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    I'll make this as short as I can. High school boy gets taught how to shoot an Ar-15 service rifle and a M1a. He goes into the Marines as a rifleman. Second tour in the sandbox he is issued a M-14 because his father taught him how to shoot one. Several weeks later he gets to call home and tells his father "dad, you were right, you only have to shoot them once with a M-14!" True story
     
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    My unit alone had several insurgents keep fighting after being hit with 7.62x51. Dont get me wrong, I love the 7.62 but with good placement and decent ammo the 5.56 is IMO one of the best things for a soldier on the ground.

    I carried a 240B for a while becuase the MK48s were having issues and the only 7.62 belt feds we had were the 240s off the truck

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  15. SCmasterblaster

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    I used an M14 in the 1975 USN. :cool: