That Springfield is nothing but a glorified import house is not exactly a news flash. They never made a fully made in USA 1911. I WILL concede they make a good 1911 but don't care for the deceptive advertising. Same goes for Blackhawks nylon products- made in Vietnam
The only product they ever made completely in the USA with American parts was the early m1A but that has not been the case in at least 2 decades
As for the <$400 PT-1911, I pre-ordered once I heard they were going to hit the market. I got one of the first run of Ruger 1911s the same was as the busiest FFL in Oregon is a friend.
It's not as nice as the Ruger which is basically a stainless Caspian 1911 with above average parts. You could barely build a stainless Caspian with the parts included in the Ruger in the low $600s. I've no experience with the others you mention. The PT 1911 was a good value when it first came out but not worth what they are asking for them these days.
It's not as nice as the Ruger which is basically a stainless Caspian 1911 with above average parts. I've no experience with the others you mention. It was a good value when it first came out but not worth what they are asking for them these days.
The truth is ...once you 'go bl err...better you can't go back!' :rofl:I don't have nearly as many 1911's as you guys, but the more I shoot the smooth ones, the less I enjoy the lesser worked models.
Don't forget guys, an afternoon with a single shot .22, a sammich and a cold Coca-Cola is truly nearly heaven. It's a fine hobby that we have chosen.
ETA: Bac I'll try and send you those BHP ser #'s after Christmas.
Thanks for being willing to look them up for me. Sorry for the drift but I don't expect to be on here very much over the next few days.
Ive had my Taurus PT 1911 just a little less than two months with just around 700 rounds thru it and 3 pairs of grips. Ive had zero failures. I picked it up OTD for $615. Springfield was my first choice, but no where around here to look at one, and I didnt feel like spending the amount of money they want for them. I asked a lot of questions and held the PT 1911 before I bought it, and Im quite pleased with my decision.
Read this sticky from the Taurus forum on the Miami factory tour two mods made. It is quite long with lots of photos and good documentary and worth the read.
ETA: Bac I'll try and send you those BHP ser #'s after Christmas.
Thanks for being willing to look them up for me. Sorry for the drift but I don't expect to be on here very much over the next few days.
I bought a PT1911 when they first came out for under $400, but it wasn't a good value in the slightest since it was a total POS, reliability, finish and quality wise.
Ive had my Taurus PT 1911 just a little less than two months with just around 700 rounds thru it and 3 pairs of grips. Ive had zero failures. I picked it up OTD for $615. Springfield was my first choice, but no where around here to look at one, and I didnt feel like spending the amount of money they want for them. I asked a lot of questions and held the PT 1911 before I bought it, and Im quite pleased with my decision.
Read this sticky from the Taurus forum on the Miami factory tour two mods made. It is quite long with lots of photos and good documentary and worth the read.
They seem to be hit or miss, a trait common to a number of Taurus semi autos. Alot of the abuse the PT1911 takes is from the ads they ran portraying it as a $1000+ gun for $500. They just were not accurate.
I liked the Para 1911s I owned, most on here do not care for that brand at all either.
This sub forum is not really a brand snob forum 95% of the time, now the Black Rifle Forum.....well that is a different story :rofl:
I bought a PT1911 when they first came out for under $400, but it wasn't a good value in the slightest since it was a total POS, reliability, finish and quality wise.
Then again, needing some other guy to build and improve your 1911 is like having a custom hot rod or chopper that some other guy built and not knowing how to fix it. Traditionally, the pride is in making it, not just owning it.
I'd take more pride in a Taurus that I turned into a great gun than in a Wilson I took out of a box.
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