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Brand new g19 with NIB-X is a jamomatic. Anyone else have this problem?

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Prometheus77, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. Prometheus77

    Prometheus77 GOA - RWVA

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    I took out my new g19 with NIB-X coating and it's a mess. failure to feed and failure to eject. Basically every single round. :wow:

    Not an ammo issue, same rounds were being feed fine thru a SA XD9 as well as a MP5.

    I only had two g19 mags out with me, but it was both magazines as well.

    Many times, the slide wasn't even traveling far enough to the rear to even cause a high brass issue. Stove pipes from hell... crazy stuff.

    Anyone else have a similar experience?
     
  2. Gallium

    Gallium CLM

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    What is NIB-X coating? Is that a Glock factory process?

    If no, did you shoot the gun before that process was applied?

    If it is a Glock factory process....did you change the recoil spring? Are the mags likewise new? What ammo is it?
     


  3. conpro

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    Sounds like the coating is the problem.
     
  4. Prometheus77

    Prometheus77 GOA - RWVA

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    Brand new Gen 3 made in USA gLock. Never fired before today, I bought it with the coating on it.
     
  5. barth

    barth six barrels

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    I have a Talo EXO gen 3 G27 with Fail Zero Nickel Boron finish.
    It's been perfect from NIB with 6000 rounds on the clock.
    I believe NIB-X is very similar.
    The finish is micro thin and should have nothing to do with operation.
    I've never heard of others with nickel boron causing problems with function.

    I would think it was reassembled improperly or has defective parts.
    If you bought it NIB with NIB-X?
    You should still have your Glock warranty.
    Send it back to the mother ship.
     
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  6. Prometheus77

    Prometheus77 GOA - RWVA

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    I've heard and seen some issues with the Gen4's rolling out, I'm not 100% the finish is the issue. Even the extractor doesn't want to allow the brass to slide into place.
     
  7. bigkrackers

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    NiB-X is nickel boron coating. It's the latest craze in finishes from coating slides to BCGs in ARs.

    I believe the finish is offered by Glock but can't confirm.
     
  8. bentbiker

    bentbiker NRA Member

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    Did you clean and lube before shooting? Again, what is the ammo -- just because it works in another gun doesn't mean your Glock will like it (e.g. swc bullets). How much experience do you have shooting Glocks?
    Did you determine this by hand-cycling cartridges?
     
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  9. barth

    barth six barrels

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    +1
    I didn't even want ask if it's a gen 4 G19....
    But that was my first thought.

    I think Glock has some sort of agreements with Talo and NIB-X.
    To take blocks of NIB Glocks.
    Refinish them, repackage them and sell them as NIB guns.

    The finish is third party.
    But they are still NIB guns with Glock warranties.

    At least that's the way my Talo Fail Zero G27 was bought.
     
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  10. Prometheus77

    Prometheus77 GOA - RWVA

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    I don't think I've ever shot a g19/17 that was ammo picky.

    Some WWB and some remington. Not an ammo issue, the remington is all from the same 1,000 lot that hasn't had a problem prior and today I sent 300~ rounds of it down range in an XD9 and a MP5. Zero issues.

    Yes to your last two questions.

    I'll get a video up in a few.
     
  11. WT

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    1. Cycle the slide by hand at least 1,000 times. The parts burnish, the recoil springs cycle. (You can sit in front of the TV watching NCIS while doing so.)

    2. Fully load your brand new magazines and let them sit for 2 weeks. Then unload by hand, reload again.

    3. Now your Glock is ready for the range.

    You may need to lube the Glock. No more than 4 drops of oil total.
    1 drop on barrel
    1 drop on slide interior, the forward part.
    1/2 drop on each slide rail
    1 drop on cruciform
     
  12. conpro

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    Only gen4 i would buy would be the g26 or g27.
     
  13. Prometheus77

    Prometheus77 GOA - RWVA

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    :shocked:
    You're joking right?

    It's a gLock, not a Keltec.
     
  14. WT

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    No, I am not joking.

    I have been shooting Glocks since before Gaston was born.

    New Glock springs are STIFF. They need some breaking in to work reliably.

    Besides, the exercise is good for strengthening the wrists and grip.
     
  15. DaneA

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    I saw this problem with a friends nib 19 with a nickel coating. Unfortunately it just took some time to break in. I want to say it was about 500 rounds. The dealer had two of these and one of the owners bought the other one and said they had the same issue. After the break in it has performed flawlessly.


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  16. glockarmor

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    Personally I"ve never had to do anything to a new Glock other than load the mag and pull the trigger. I now have two Gen 4s and the same has applied to them.
     
  17. bentbiker

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    P77, you might want to take out the extractor and see just how tight it is in its slot. Would only take a couple minutes. I wouldn't have thought the NiB would add much, but maybe just enough to make it tight like you sensed. If so, I would expect add'l shooting to wear it in.
    I'll have to think about that for a second . . .
     
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  18. WT

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    Look at it another way ...

    People frequently ask "How many rounds should I fire of XYZ ammo before I can consider my ammo and pistol combination reliable?"

    Some will reply "100 rounds of Witch Killer hollowpoints", others "300 rounds of +P+ dragonslayers" and so on.

    Well, that can be expensive.

    Recycling the slide by hand will not really duplicate the loads and speed 1 on 1 that the pistol will see when actually firing a round. So, the next best thing .... 1,000 cycles by hand which MAY duplicate 300 actual rounds fired.

    AND it's not as noisy.
     
  19. DannyB

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    I have a NIB-X G17 that has run flawlessly.
     
  20. SCSU74

    SCSU74 St. Cloud Proud

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    No they aren't, and they don't need to be "broken" in. Also, may want to recheck your lube points they're a little off


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