I've been looking for one of these for awhile now. Last night I ran across a thread where one was shot 50 times. I don't really care if it was shot 3000 times. I've been wanting one bad!! I got it for 850. It came with some hogue wrap around grips. I put the other grips back on. If anybody wants the hogue grips send me a PM and you can have them. They're for a full size or commander frame. Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine Wanna kill these ads? We can help!