close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Welcome to Glock Talk

Why should YOU join our Glock forum?

  • Converse with other Glock Enthusiasts
  • Learn about the latest hunting products
  • Becoming a member is FREE and EASY

If you consider yourself a beginner or an avid shooter, the Glock Talk community is your place to discuss self defense, concealed carry, reloading, target shooting, and all things Glock.

bought a new 1911 with an idiot mark

Discussion in 'Test-Posts Here' started by ColtPythonowner, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. ColtPythonowner

    ColtPythonowner

    19
    0
    Mar 29, 2012
    bought a new 1911 that came with an idiot mark from the factory. They say they will send me postage and store owner is going to help me send it to factory with FFL transfer.
    posted all this with pictures earlier but it didn't go.
     
  2. itstime

    itstime

    7,176
    17
    Apr 9, 2006
    USA
    What kind of gun? Did it come straight from the factory or go through channels where someone probably showed their skills on taking it down?
     


  3. WinterWizard

    WinterWizard

    1,417
    5
    Jan 17, 2012
    Why did you drop the money on in if it had the idiot mark in the gun store? I wouldn't buy any gun that had the smallest blemish whatsoever.
     
  4. ColtPythonowner

    ColtPythonowner

    19
    0
    Mar 29, 2012
    It was tie-wrapped closed. I thought it was mandatory that all guns stayed that way while in the show. Personal guns brought in are tie-wrapped at the door, and have to stay that way until you leave. Those are USED guns that I think need more inspection than a NEW gun from a reputable store's booth. I did ask for, and got confirmation that it was a new gun. The store owner is working with me, and factory is paying for the shipping for them to inspect. ImageUploadedByOHubCampfire1366033089.349837.jpg
    See ! it looks fine with the slide tie-wrapped closed.
    ImageUploadedByOHubCampfire1366033133.665278.jpg
    I had a gunsmith to a professional inspection the next day after purchasing it. He informed me it was from improper reassembly. I think the factory will make it right. I love the way the gun feels in my hand.


    Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
     

    Attached Files:

  5. 03scgt

    03scgt

    749
    43
    May 23, 2011
    South Florida
    Can you even see that without the slide off? Lol
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2013
  6. QNman

    QNman resU deretsigeR Silver Member

    9,966
    418
    Oct 5, 2005
    St. Louis, MO
    DAMN! That's a serious mark - it looks scratched or gouged into the metal!
     
  7. ColtPythonowner

    ColtPythonowner

    19
    0
    Mar 29, 2012
    I phoned a local 1911 gunsmith the day after I bought the gun about the marks and that's when he said he would examine it for me. That is where i took the stripped picture. There are other marks on the rails - etc, none of which hinder the performance of the firearm, but just question whether it it is "new".
    Yes you can see it with the slide locked back..

    This is not my first gun, just my first 1911.- And my first SW. I really like the feel of this bobtailed model. The scratches are minor, and fixable


    Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
     
  8. Jason D

    Jason D INFRINGED Silver Member Millennium Member

    41,973
    1,012
    Jun 16, 1999
    Mivonks, MI
    There are certain wear patterns that happen to a gun either during shooting, or even when it's new and being assembled. Wear in the finish on the slide rails for instance is normal. I have never seen a new gun that didn't have some wear on it from assembly alone. That little mark is from the slide stop rubbing on the finish when the slide is cycled and locked back or released. It to is normal to some extent.

    However yours looks like there are gouge marks on it. Like something (metal shavings, grit, ect) got under it and were worked into the gun when the slide and stop were operated.

    I would imagine S&W won't do anything with it other than touch it up with something.
     
  9. ColtPythonowner

    ColtPythonowner

    19
    0
    Mar 29, 2012
    Well the gun is on its way back to them. Free of charge. ImageUploadedByOHubCampfire1366219389.309951.jpg

    Does the shiny mark on the right side of the frame look normal for a new gun?

    I have a good feeling that S&W will make it right. Assembly line snafus happen, but usually companies take good care of their customers. I really like the way this 1911 feels in my hand!
    I'll keep it regardless!


    Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
     
  10. Jason D

    Jason D INFRINGED Silver Member Millennium Member

    41,973
    1,012
    Jun 16, 1999
    Mivonks, MI
    That does not look normal.

    Anywhere the slide moves will have normal wear marks. That looks more like there is a burr or a bump on the slide that has caused that.
     
  11. QNman

    QNman resU deretsigeR Silver Member

    9,966
    418
    Oct 5, 2005
    St. Louis, MO
    No, it absolutely does not.

    I sincerely hope you're right. I'm strongly considering adding one myself.
     
  12. QNman

    QNman resU deretsigeR Silver Member

    9,966
    418
    Oct 5, 2005
    St. Louis, MO
    BTW - How the heck did you end up in the "test posts" section?
     
  13. BamaTrooper

    BamaTrooper Almost Done

    9,678
    117
    Sep 12, 2006
    Rocking Chair
    And I buy everyone I can if the cost goes down because of it. Same goes for appliances and cars and about everything else but clothes. Hell, what am I saying, I admit it, I've shopped at Goodwill.:tongueout:
     
  14. matt_lowry123

    matt_lowry123

    1,567
    41
    Nov 23, 2008
    owensboro KY
    I looked at one of those S&W 1911's the other day and it looked worse than yours. The slide release is out of spec. My ruger looks the same btw.

    Your right rail looks a bit off. I doubt it will do anything, other than piss you off.
     
  15. matt_lowry123

    matt_lowry123

    1,567
    41
    Nov 23, 2008
    owensboro KY
    I'd be more pissed about the safety, unless you pulled it out some.
     
  16. ColtPythonowner

    ColtPythonowner

    19
    0
    Mar 29, 2012
    I got a call from S&W yesterday. The repair section has had my new 1911 for a few weeks, and the guy left me a message saying that they are going to give me another new gun. The FFL transfer fees and shipping will be covered by S&W. I haven't been able to talk to him about what happened in the first place, but it looks promising that the company cares about its customers!
    The only bad is that I have to wait until Tuesday to get the return process started.


    Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
     
  17. Jason D

    Jason D INFRINGED Silver Member Millennium Member

    41,973
    1,012
    Jun 16, 1999
    Mivonks, MI
  18. matt_lowry123

    matt_lowry123

    1,567
    41
    Nov 23, 2008
    owensboro KY

    Keep us updated. I'm wondering if you'll still have a mark where the slide release is. That's very cool that you're getting a new gun though!!
     
  19. ColtPythonowner

    ColtPythonowner

    19
    0
    Mar 29, 2012
    My first post failed. My pictures didn't load, so I tried the practice post section.
    I think I left them too big (?).
    I do everything with my iPhone ...
    I screwed up and double posted on another thread posting duplicate pics of my Python and GP100. Erasing the script of "attach>~" didn't stop the upload. ....


    Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
     
  20. ColtPythonowner

    ColtPythonowner

    19
    0
    Mar 29, 2012
    I think I will invest in that custom slide stop from 10-8 performance posted on another thread. " idiot mark" by ColCol
    Carbon steel version comes in black oxide finish and will look stock. Promises better fit and reduced chance of frame scratching 😁


    Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire