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Boot grip for S&W 642

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Jade Falcon, Jul 2, 2012.


  1. Jade Falcon

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    Hi folks,

    I'm looking for a boot grip that covers the backstrap of my 642. I cannot afford CT grips, so please don't mention them; they're well out of my price range.

    My 642 has the Uncle Mikes grips that the gun came with, and I need grips that tame/take away the sting from the backstrap. However, I also like the short profile of the boot grip for CC, and I can comfortably handle the gun with my pinkie curled underneath the gun, so that's how I want to keep it.

    Thanks for the suggestions on brands and types. Please remember, it must cover/cushion the backstrap. Thank you!
     

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    Surely an off-topic post to follow that does not answer your question.

    If you use a tight grip achieved by push of the shooting hand, and heel of thumb, forward; along with the pull of the support hand fingers pulling the gun into your shooting hand; perhap the gun won't slap sharply into your hand. The recoil should go more up in the air and not back into your hand. I have a 642, kept stock with the Uncle Mike's boot grips that do not cover the back strap.

    Also, for range use, have you tried 148 gr wadcutters? They are target loads, a lower velocity, and have less recoil.

    But my point regarding the grip also works with the +p.

    Now you might be an expereinced shooter and perhaps want the grip change for very good reasons, any way :)
     

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  3. janice6

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    When my wife got her 642 I added CT laser grips to it and they were the old ones that were hard. I didn't like them.

    I found soft grips for it that were like the Hogue round butt, but had square butt design. Eliminated the problem you are having.

    It was so long ago that I forget the mfgr, but don't give up hope, they're out there.
     
  4. Jade Falcon

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    Thanks, but I like my techniques, and I would practice more often...if it didn't raise blood after a box of 50 soft wadcutters. I need to get in alot more serious practice with this gun, and the only way that's going to happen is if I find other boot grips that cover the backstrap.

    Janice: thanks, but again, I don't have nearly enough money for CT grips, or if I did, I'd buy the model 405's, and this wouldn't be an issue. But I just don't have the money. In fact, if I did, I'd rather buy a Mossberg shotgun for apartment-defense.

    Anyone here have any experience with Pachmayr grips on their J-frame? If so, what model and style?

    Thanks again, everyone!
     
  5. DRJ1911

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    I just 10min ago changed to the ruger boot grip on my LCR. I haven't shot with them yet but they feel fine. I think they are Houge's and they seem to work well in the pocket. Hope this helps.

    Doyle
     
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    I think the Hogue Grips for J-Frames have the back strap in them. Check with your local Dealer.
     
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    I have the hogue boot grip on a 642, love it. It doesn't cover the backstrap as you want but I can't see how the backstrap is cutting your hand. I'm not aware of any boot grips that fit your desires so you might have to take matters into your own hands. Cut up an old neoprene mouse pad and secure with athletic tape. It'll fit your budget and serve its purpose. Or you could try the hogue, it really is great.
     
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    I think Sile made some boot grips that covered the backstrap. CDNN also had some at one time. I cant remember the brand, but they were very inexpensive.
     
  9. Jade Falcon

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    Thanks, I'll see what a Google search comes up with.
     
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    I practice with my 642's a couple times a month, just to stay on top of them, and 50 rounds of full power reloads is all I can take.

    The problem with the J frames is, the grips that work best for concealment, are not the best for comfortable shooting. It is what it is, and not much youre going to be able to do about it, unless you go with the big, oversize rubber grips many of them seem to come with.

    I solved the 642 problem when I got my first Glock 26. Now the 642's just come out to stay on top of them, and reinforce why Im now carrying a 26 in the 642's place. I get twice the on board ammo, in a gun of similar size, that has a decent set of night sights on it, and I can shoot it all day long with +P+ loads. Probably not what you want to hear, but it solved my problem nicely. :)
     
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    Well, your post is interesting. I have a Blackhawk Speed Classic for 642 side carry and it's a fantastic holster. I also have a Mika for pocket carry. With the Compac grips, pocket carry is a bit iffy.
    You solved your 642 issue with a G-26.

    I solved it with a G-19 :) I can shoot that thing all day long with +P - but couldn't afford to.

    I was initially going to get a G-26, but it was a bit small for my hand. I figured if I was going to get a grip extension, I might as well get a G-19.

    I like the 26 a lot and it will likely be my next purchase.

    I also like the 642 and might even carry it in certain situations. I'm still debating with myself on when and where to carry. Not counting the Army, I haven't ever needed to be armed. I don't want to lull myself into a false sense of security though.

    I really like Glocktalk with so many helpful people and interesting ideas. I've learned a lot.
     
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    Thanks folks! I'll take a look at Compac's grips. And yes, I have considered selling or trading my J-frame for a G26, but I like the light wieght of the J-frame; the fact that I can stick it in a sweatpants pocket while going commando, and it doesn't sag my sweats is a nice feature. Can't do that with the Glock: too heavy.
     
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    The best of luck. As an added note - I switched to +P's and they are killing my hand. I going back to non- Plus P for the 642. Haven't quite decided which.

    Federal Personal Defense 110 grain Hydra-Shok

    Federal 125 Grain Nyclad

    Hornady Critical Defense 110

    Oh man, decisions, decisions.

    Again, the grip I changed to for the 642 -

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/14...grips-s-and-w-j-frame-round-butt-rubber-black
     
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    You know, I haven't noticed much of a difference in shooting +P's vs. Standard Loadings in as far as the recoil of the gun. I find, for me, both hurt just as much. Currently, I have my 642 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense 110gr. +P JHP's. But my load of choice is the Speer 135gr. +P GDHP. Next gun show I go to, I'll be keeping an eye out for them. And thanks for the Midway link; I just might put in an order for when they get back in stock.

    Is it true that you can't use Speedloaders with those Pachmayrs?
     
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    Well, I ordered a speedloader from 5 Star Firearms.
    Beautifully made.

    http://www.5starfirearms.com/357_j_2.html

    I don't think speedloaders come any narrower. Although it does work with the new grips, it's a jiggle. The grips don't interfere. The cylinder is very close to the frame. I will use speed strips.

    I also have the Speer 135 +P and they're a bit much for me to handle - as in I can't hit crap. Good things I can do okay with the Glock. I'll just practice more with the 642.

    Ebay has several of the Pachmayr grips. Model number is
    03252.
     
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    Ps -

    If you're going to get a speedloader, the 5 Star is truly a work of art. I've been playing with it a bit more and if anything works on the 642, it's that one.
     
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    You misunderstood. I said I didn't like the CT grips. They were the old ones and hard. I took them off.

    I did find some so you know they are out there.

    I agree with you. Rapid fire slid the skin off in my thumb web before I found them.
     
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    Yeah, I checked out that link; those are NICE! Stainless steel from solid-billet? Yes please! Thanks for the link! They look far nicer and thinner than HKS speedloaders.

    Janice: ah, thanks for the correction there, my bad. Yeah, I know they're out there, but they still cost an arm and a leg.
     
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