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Bodyarmor Question

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Metro566, Jan 8, 2012.


  1. Metro566

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    Ok I purchased a new vest because the department I work for is switching to the new level III's. Question I'm having is this; is it normal for the neck to plunge this low on a vest? My last vest was nearly right up to my throat...as it stands this drops to my collarbone. I was told that this vest is made this way in order to prevent it throat-punching you when you sit down....but it feels a bit off. I can return it if need be since it's only a few days old.

    Thanks guys

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  2. Wonder140

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    That's exactly how my vest sits on me. I never had one sit as high as you say. Couldn't imagine that...

    Your agency doesn't pay for your vest?? Yeek, there are grants out there for agencies to do this...
     

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    By no means am I anything expert on how bullet resistant vests should fit, but I think the neckline plunges a little to deep. Also, the area under the armpits could be more covered.

    Does the dealer have different sized and cut vests to try out?
     
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    I know my ABA and Spectra vests both cover a little more than the one in your picture. I would try to get refitted if I were you.
     
  5. Metro566

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    The next size up is a bit too big....but yes I was a little concerned about the neckline. Their answer was to "wear it up higher"...but then it sits 4-5 fingers off my belt line instead of the recommended 2 finger-width. I'd be willing to wear it higher but would have to order the next length up which would be a Xtra Long (right now I wear a 46-Long)...the last thing I want is a GSW to the stomach. A colostomy bag and the worst pain in the world aren't worth it to me.
     
  6. larry_minn

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    Not a LEO, do not wear a vest very often. (thank goodness) I did sit in with a team at a body armor vendor a few yrs back. (mainly looking at ideas for a front opening vest/storm flap of armor to make that weak spot a strong spot.

    So just a personal observation. As you hinted. The more coverage you can get without being so uncomfortable you will take it off whenever possible....

    It seems almost weekly I hear (on news, online,etc) of a Officer, other vest wearer who is severly injured/killed because the bullet went just off edge of vest. I was told to buy the best fitting vest I could afford.
     
  7. collim1

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    I agree. That two or three inches where you are not covered would make you DRT with a hit. That is not a good place for a bullet.

    My vest has never hit me in the adams apple, and it covers the area in between my collarbones.
     
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    If I'm looking at that pic correctly, its way too low, IMO. The top looks like its nearly down to the top of your sternum.
     
  9. msu_grad_121

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    Add another vote for it being too low. I've seen V-neck vests before (granted, few and far between), but nothing like that. Seems like they just sorta threw what they had at you.

    Then again, I'm that goof that will give up a great deal of comfort for that extra half inch of protection, because hey, you just never know, am I right?
     
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    Is that a Point Blank Vision series?
     
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    You're absolutely right! I know one officer that would likely still be alive if his vest had covered just a bit more... :crying:
     
  12. collim1

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    I am due for a new vest and considering getting my new vest with no overlap as the several inches of overlap in my current vest is very uncomfortable.

    My only worry is that I wont have protection on the sides.
     
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    It's a bit low for my tastes. When I wear my duty shirt, the vest should be visible right above the open V-portion of the neckline. Doesn't look like yours is.
     
  14. steveksux

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    I'm not a cop or a doctor, but looks like the top area doesn't really cover the thoracic cavity too well. I know there's some stuff in that open area I wouldn't want to get shot in.

    Also I seem to remember some Detroit officer getting shot under the arm on a raid, and that round being fatal, it missed his vest. So I have to say it seems kind of low under the arms as well.

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    If I get shot and it misses my vest by an inch there probably wasnt much I could have done anyhow. I think your vest is cut too low though. Love my USarmor vest and hated the representative I have though.
     
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    Wow that is cut way too low! My vest has a very small cut out for the thoat area. Is that a custom fit vest like the US Armor ones or just a generic size? If it's the former the person who measured you F'd up bad.

    It should look like this.... (Custom fit US Armor IIIA vest)
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  17. Goldendog Redux

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    I'd take a v-neck over the Point Blank Vision piece of crap that strangles me and jabs my armpits. I guess my vest affords a lot of protection but I hate it. That uncomfortable piece of crap is after it was re-fit for me.

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  18. Deployment Solu

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    My last vest was a Safariland Zero G Gold. I was measured for it. It did take a little getting used to for the reasons you mentioned, but it did seam to cover more of the areas than your pic. I'd see what else you can get. Comfort vs protection is a trade off, but, that doesn't look quite right to me. BTW, how much sitting do you do?? Lots of time in a squad requires some comfort.
     
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    Were do you get the long acoustic tube for your radio? I like the way you have that set up but I would need a long tube like you have to make my unit work.

    I 100% agree the OP's vest is cut way to low. Send it back and get the right cut. You will have to be in it for servral years :faint:.
     
  20. Metro566

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    Yeah it's going back today. Thanks for all the advice and reaffirming my suspicions. Stay safe out there!