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Blind people and guns.

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Angry Fist, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. Angry Fist

    Angry Fist Dehumanizer® Lifetime Member

    Dec 30, 2009
    Hellbilly Hill
    I have a neighbor who is ~90% blind, and wants to own a pistol. He can play cards, and track people moving about the room and such, but is legally blind. He is a responsible person otherwise, and wants something handy in case of anything bad happening. His elderly mother and toy daschund are there, but he still insists on owning a gun. What say ye?
  2. HandyMan Hugh

    HandyMan Hugh NRA Life Member

    May 17, 2002
    Hallstead, PA
    As long as he can see well enough to discern what is or is not a proper target, YES! He may well be able to do that by watching movement and hearing what a possible assailant is saying. If he can learn to do point and shoot at close range, why not?

  3. WiskyT

    WiskyT Malcontent

    Jun 12, 2002
    North Carolina
    He'd be a better shot than most of the people who post gun reviews with targets at 7 yards.
  4. Misty02


    Aug 25, 2008
    If he can distinguish the markings in the cards to play, I have little doubt he’ll have any problems distinguishing a home intruder from his elderly mother, even less problem with the toy dachshund.

    Why not take him to the range and let him try yours? You mention he is a responsible person; most responsible people understand and work around their own limitations to achieve their goals. He may even be able to locate a professional trainer that teaches him special techniques that would assist with his limitations?

  5. Might I suggest a 20 gauge shotgun? Less travel and penetration than a pistol round, and really easy to align for aiming, too.
  6. 1gewehr


    Mar 22, 2006
    Mid TN
    It's his choice, not yours. If he believes that he is capable of discerning between an intruder and a family member, then it's his responsibility to make that choicer himself.

    It's the same choice each of makes for ourselves. I wear glasses. Does that mean that I should not have a firearm near the bed for self-defense? No. I believe that I can see well enough to discern the difference between ad home invader and a family member, even without my glasses. I suspect your friend feels the same way.
  7. MadMonkey

    MadMonkey Spershul Furces

    Aug 18, 2010
    I just re-read the 2nd Amendment. Can't believe I missed that part about blind people being excluded from the right to bear arms.
  8. jr05


    Jun 9, 2007
    he can play cards but is 90% blind? Are the cards in braille?

    If he can discern who is who at a distance (not just track blobs) I would say yes, no worries.
  9. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank Glock4Life

    Oct 11, 2004
    Avondale, AZ.
    This would be one of the few times when I'd actually recommend one of the "Shotgun Revolvers" like the Judge. With a multi ball load of 000 buck he'll have a better chance of hitting his target in a vital spot and if he can get up close and personal even a shot load would do enough damage to take care of an attacker.
    I read an article many years ago in Guns and Ammo about self defense for folks that were totally blind using a handgun. The Author recommended a M29 S&W loaded with blanks for touch shooting. A blank ctg. will do quite a bit of damage if you press the muzzle into the target(remember Brandon Lee, RIP) and there's no projectile to go astray and harm an innocent.
  10. 2bgop


    Dec 5, 2006
    In the SEC
    If he wants a firearm, all he has to do it buy one.
  11. 10mm Sonny

    10mm Sonny

    Jun 30, 2006
    He's qualified to be a Stromtrooper / bad guy.


  12. M2 Carbine

    M2 Carbine

    Dec 21, 2002
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  13. esh325


    Sep 28, 2011
    Margolin was 100% blind and he designed a pistol. As for your buddy, take him to the range and see how he does.
  14. Darkangel1846


    Jul 19, 2004
    Its the USA, he can own whatever he wants, although I would suggest to him that some practice might be worthwhile
  15. M2 Carbine

    M2 Carbine

    Dec 21, 2002
    Last month a local gunsmith was showing me pictures of a friend that shoots and hunts.

    At first the GS didn't tell me the man was blind. Then on a picture of the man beside an Elephant he shot, I could see his eyes looked a little strange.
    I asked about the man's eyes. The GS said "He's blind". Then he showed me more amazing pictures of the man hunting and shooting.

    Just how blind?, I didn't ask but carrying a White Cane blind.

    This isn't exactly the same thing but it's surprising how well you can shoot with your eyes closed.
    I passed (for just practice) the Texas concealed carry shooting qualification with my eyes closed.

    Just for the heck of it I sometimes shoot with my eyes closed.



    "Shoot out" with a BG with my eyes closed. I missed the BG three times.
    So, I suspect if a person can see at all they could learn to be competent with firearms.
    Oh, and in Texas I believe I heard that blind people can hunt and get their CHL.
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2012
  16. Paul53

    Paul53 Geezer Boomer

    Nov 27, 2011
    They have braille on the drive up ATM at my bank. If they let blind people drive, why not let them shoot?
  17. smokeross

    smokeross GTDS Member #49

    May 15, 2011
    No different than the bozos that take 'sound shots' while hunting. LOL
  18. ancient_serpent


    Jun 6, 2008
    My daughter is 100% blind and she goes to the range with me every chance she gets. Obviously there is a need for some amount of vision. She can just distinguish the bright orange center of the targets we use at just under three yards.
    While she leaves her guide dog home (he doesn't like the noise) the looks we get when she walks in with her cane are great. Typically range from flat disbelief to folks looking for a hidden camera crew. Or maybe cover.
    She like pistols with low recoil, right now she's best with a Walther P22. One of her friends (who is also blind) prefers a Beretta 92FS.
    We have talked about offering more blind people and kids the chance to go shooting, not something they do every day.

    Performance-wise, she is able to manipulate the pistol as well as anyone else, grouping is roughly palm-head sized depending on what drill she does.
    Last time we went, she was working on immediate action.
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2012
  19. TreyG-20

    TreyG-20 Second2None

    LOL they do here too. Doesnt make to much since except i also see people driving motorized wheelchairs in the street here too
  20. M2 Carbine

    M2 Carbine

    Dec 21, 2002