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Blind people and guns.

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Angry Fist, Jan 29, 2012.


  1. Angry Fist

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    I have a neighbor who is ~90% blind, and wants to own a pistol. He can play cards, and track people moving about the room and such, but is legally blind. He is a responsible person otherwise, and wants something handy in case of anything bad happening. His elderly mother and toy daschund are there, but he still insists on owning a gun. What say ye?
     

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    As long as he can see well enough to discern what is or is not a proper target, YES! He may well be able to do that by watching movement and hearing what a possible assailant is saying. If he can learn to do point and shoot at close range, why not?
     

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    He'd be a better shot than most of the people who post gun reviews with targets at 7 yards.
     
  4. Misty02

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    If he can distinguish the markings in the cards to play, I have little doubt he’ll have any problems distinguishing a home intruder from his elderly mother, even less problem with the toy dachshund.

    Why not take him to the range and let him try yours? You mention he is a responsible person; most responsible people understand and work around their own limitations to achieve their goals. He may even be able to locate a professional trainer that teaches him special techniques that would assist with his limitations?

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  5. bigleaf

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    Might I suggest a 20 gauge shotgun? Less travel and penetration than a pistol round, and really easy to align for aiming, too.
     
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    It's his choice, not yours. If he believes that he is capable of discerning between an intruder and a family member, then it's his responsibility to make that choicer himself.

    It's the same choice each of makes for ourselves. I wear glasses. Does that mean that I should not have a firearm near the bed for self-defense? No. I believe that I can see well enough to discern the difference between ad home invader and a family member, even without my glasses. I suspect your friend feels the same way.
     
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    I just re-read the 2nd Amendment. Can't believe I missed that part about blind people being excluded from the right to bear arms.
     
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    he can play cards but is 90% blind? Are the cards in braille?

    If he can discern who is who at a distance (not just track blobs) I would say yes, no worries.
     
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    This would be one of the few times when I'd actually recommend one of the "Shotgun Revolvers" like the Judge. With a multi ball load of 000 buck he'll have a better chance of hitting his target in a vital spot and if he can get up close and personal even a shot load would do enough damage to take care of an attacker.
    I read an article many years ago in Guns and Ammo about self defense for folks that were totally blind using a handgun. The Author recommended a M29 S&W loaded with blanks for touch shooting. A blank ctg. will do quite a bit of damage if you press the muzzle into the target(remember Brandon Lee, RIP) and there's no projectile to go astray and harm an innocent.
     
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    If he wants a firearm, all he has to do it buy one.
     
  11. 10mm Sonny

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    He's qualified to be a Stromtrooper / bad guy.

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    Margolin was 100% blind and he designed a pistol. As for your buddy, take him to the range and see how he does.
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    Its the USA, he can own whatever he wants, although I would suggest to him that some practice might be worthwhile
     
  15. M2 Carbine

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    Last month a local gunsmith was showing me pictures of a friend that shoots and hunts.

    At first the GS didn't tell me the man was blind. Then on a picture of the man beside an Elephant he shot, I could see his eyes looked a little strange.
    I asked about the man's eyes. The GS said "He's blind". Then he showed me more amazing pictures of the man hunting and shooting.

    Just how blind?, I didn't ask but carrying a White Cane blind.



    This isn't exactly the same thing but it's surprising how well you can shoot with your eyes closed.
    I passed (for just practice) the Texas concealed carry shooting qualification with my eyes closed.

    Just for the heck of it I sometimes shoot with my eyes closed.

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    "Shoot out" with a BG with my eyes closed. I missed the BG three times.
    So, I suspect if a person can see at all they could learn to be competent with firearms.
    Oh, and in Texas I believe I heard that blind people can hunt and get their CHL.
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    They have braille on the drive up ATM at my bank. If they let blind people drive, why not let them shoot?
     
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    No different than the bozos that take 'sound shots' while hunting. LOL
     
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    My daughter is 100% blind and she goes to the range with me every chance she gets. Obviously there is a need for some amount of vision. She can just distinguish the bright orange center of the targets we use at just under three yards.
    While she leaves her guide dog home (he doesn't like the noise) the looks we get when she walks in with her cane are great. Typically range from flat disbelief to folks looking for a hidden camera crew. Or maybe cover.
    She like pistols with low recoil, right now she's best with a Walther P22. One of her friends (who is also blind) prefers a Beretta 92FS.
    We have talked about offering more blind people and kids the chance to go shooting, not something they do every day.

    Performance-wise, she is able to manipulate the pistol as well as anyone else, grouping is roughly palm-head sized depending on what drill she does.
    Last time we went, she was working on immediate action.
     
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    LOL they do here too. Doesnt make to much since except i also see people driving motorized wheelchairs in the street here too
     
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