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Blade type

Discussion in 'The Cutting Edge' started by r3dot, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. r3dot

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    I'm looking at getting a Ka-bar TDI for an SD blade.

    I've heard that fully serrated is best for SD, but the opinions on that vary from what I've read. I may find myself needing to cut through tough materials -- so would a half & half blade be OK? Any cons?
     
  2. mitchshrader

    mitchshrader Deceased

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    ok. using a knife in self defense is truly a choice between really bad and lots worse. winning is very expensive and that's cheap.

    get a dedicated SD blade, and any ordinary utility knife and don't confuse 'em.

    and then do not GO where you need that SD blade.
     


  3. r3dot

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    WTF?



    :faint:
     
  4. RedHaze

    RedHaze Handgunner

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    DriBak GUNS UP Millennium Member

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    A+, Oh I thought the OP was asking blood type
     
  6. r3dot

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    Useless post #3. Thanks
     
  7. Scared_of_zombies

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    whats the extent of your knife fighting training/skill?
     
  8. GAFinch

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    I thought the same thing...
     
  9. r3dot

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    I'm a highly trained warrior. I begun learning from Sir Chuck Norris and as my mind grew with knowledge, I expanded my training with Sir Steven Seagal.

    Any more questions?
     
  10. syntaxerrorsix

    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    Well in that case..

    No, the TDI isn't what you would want anyways. It's based mainly around weapons retention with the off hand. It is NOT a primary knife for utility or defense.

    As far as blade types go for cutting; this is how I see it.

    Figure out what you plan to cut the most of and then use that to determine serrations, plain or combo. Serrations are harder to sharpen for the regular Joe but provide more cutting surface area. Great for fibrous materials or material that is thick enough where multiple cuts are required to sever it. Plain edges are easier to sharpen and maintain and provide a cleaner cut but may require more work. Combo edges offer the best of neither but allow for a compromise.

    Self defense knives are best selected by the training style you learned. If you are relying on Zorro's wisdom, "The pointy end goes into the other guy." I recommend the longest sharpest pointy end you can find. If you must rely on Chuck and Steve's training it is my opinion that you probably don't really need a weapon anyways. I mean face it Chuck can stare you dead and Steve cut up a dude real bad with a credit card. Who needs a knife?

    :supergrin:
     
  11. r3dot

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    I have numerous utility knifes. That is not what I'm looking for. I want a pure SD knife. A fixed blade is what I prefer for this, and I love the size of the TDI.
     
  12. Scared_of_zombies

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    get a kabar if you can conceal it, if not i have a good "boot knife" that is a good compromise.
     
  13. syntaxerrorsix

    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    Your post was a bit confusing then because you stated you were going to have to cut through tough materials, as that isn't the role of a purely SD knife I offered the above advise.

    The Kabar TDI is not a SD knife it's not even long enough to hit any vital organs and is ergonomically incompatible with thrusts and stabs and would perform marginally at best for slashing. It may excel at what it's intended for, wrist or limb entrapment while struggling for control of a primary weapon.

    I'll stick with my advise. You should get the longest sharpest pointy end you feel comfortable carrying.
     
  14. syntaxerrorsix

    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    Here's a list of sub 3" fixed blades similar in size to the TDI for your perusing. None of which I find as an acceptable solution to your quandary but they are in your size.

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    http://www.topsknives.com/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=304

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    http://www.coldsteel.com/utilityandneck.html

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    http://www.kittyhell.com/hello-kitty-photos/hello-kitty-knife/

    I still think you would be better served with something more substantial than 2-3" but a lot of folks feel size (or color) really just isn't that important. One truth you will find is if you ever have to use a knife for SD one thing that will most likely never cross your mind is that you had too much knife.
     
  15. syntaxerrorsix

    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    I'm more of this camp for fighters.

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    http://images.google.com/imgres?img...S305US309&sa=N&um=1&ei=6F0-S_rkM8yVtgev3JXUBQ
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    http://images.google.com/imgres?img...S305US309&sa=N&um=1&ei=6F0-S_rkM8yVtgev3JXUBQ
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    http://images.google.com/imgres?img...&sa=N&start=63&um=1&ei=314-S9GjBMyVtget3JXUBQ

    These are certainly more expensive than the Kbar TDI but most definitely would serve you better if you insist on a fixed blade for SD. I'm sure you've seen the regular Kbar fighting knives and SOG's and the standard production tools which would also serve you far better. These were just my choices given the requirements.
     
  16. r3dot

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    I meant that in a sense that if I'm ever in a situation where the only knife I have on me, is a sole SD knife, it would be nice to have the ability to cut through some objects.

    I'm not set on the TDI at all. The size was a concern, but I was simply impressed with the function of it for its intended task.

    What I mainly want is something under 5.5" (blade wise) and easily concealable. Serrated vs. standard is still in question.
     
  17. syntaxerrorsix

    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    Have you looked into RAT cutlery?

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    http://www.knifeworks.com/ratcutlery-1.aspx

    Or something along the lines of a Gerber Guardian for a no frills blade.
    [​IMG]http://www.outdoorsuperstore.com/product.asp?prod=309105


    My personal order of preference is plain edge, then fully serrated. I most likely wouldn't consider a combo edge.
     
  18. r3dot

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    I like the first two. I think I've found my next buy.

    Thank you, sir.