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black talon or ranger.....

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by trailgator, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. trailgator


    Oct 17, 2005
    I need some help clearing up some confusion. I have some 40 cal ammo, that I got as part of a trade, that I thought was black talon. Further research has cast doubt on that. It has the black coated bullet, but it is in a brass case. The headstamp simply says "Winchester 40 S&W". Any help setting me straight will be appreciated. Thanks!
  2. IndyGunFreak


    Jan 26, 2001
    If I'm not mistaken, one of the reasons to switch from the Black Talon, to the Ranger, was to get away from the whole "Teflon coated bullets" media misinformation.

    Given it has a black bullet, I would suspect it is a BT.. I don't recall ever seeing a Ranger that had the black coating.

    However, I'm far from a Winchester Ammo expert

    Last edited: Jun 28, 2010


    MURRAY Millennium Member

    there was a few years or at least one year it was coated I have one box at home and mine also came in brass case. I will check it out when I get home
  4. BurkGlocker

    BurkGlocker Texas Redneck

    Feb 25, 2010
    Burkburnett, TX
    Pictures would help bunches... The Black Talon was in a nickel plated case, but they did use the same bullet in a brass case and it was called the LEO SXT. But there are some out there called Winchester SXZ, that uses the same Lubalox coating as the BT but the bullets are just plain Jane Winchester JHP.

    Last edited: Jun 28, 2010
  5. trailgator


    Oct 17, 2005
    I don't have a clue as to how to post pics. I could email them to you if you like, though. Thanks!
  6. Merkavaboy

    Merkavaboy Code-7A KUZ769

    Without a photo of the ammo you have, it's hard to say if you have the Ranger SXT bullet or if you have the SXZ round that uses the standard 180gr JHP with the black Lubalox coating on it.

    The SXZ line of ammo is produced exclusively for Bass Pro and uses the standard USA brand ammo (9mm 115gr JHP/FMJ, 40S&W 180gr JHP/FMJ & 45ACP 230gr JHP/FMJ) and finishes the bullets with a coating of the Lubalox.

    If you're not familiar with the SXT's bullet design, just Google for images of the SXT bullet and you'll find numerous pics of the SXT and you can then compare your ammo's bullet design with what you find on the web. Then you'll know what ammo you have.
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2010
  7. Glockdude1

    Glockdude1 Federal Member CLM

    May 24, 2000
    Does the bullet look like this? ( 230 .45)

    The box

  8. trailgator


    Oct 17, 2005
    yes it does. Thanks!