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Black Rain Lower

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by 03Cobra, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. 03Cobra

    03Cobra

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    So, I just ordered a 300 AAC upper from PSA and got a Black Rain lower from cheaperthandirt. after putting the two pieces together, I am not happy with the fit of the lower. Anyone else have one of these lowers and have a similar experience?
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    PSA on Stag lower; much better fit and much cheaper lower
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  2. I always thought that the black rain stuff was WAY OVERPRICED for what you got. I really like STAG rifles- I have a couple...they seem to be a good value for what you are paying for.
     

  3. mjkeat

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    Every black rain product I have seen is gimmicky garbage consisting of horrible machining and overpriced.
     
  4. Foxtrotx1

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    That's abysmal. I would be on the phone with them.
     
  5. SFF900

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    Return it and get a MEGA lower. Mega makes some of the highest quality AR parts on the market.
     
  6. 03Cobra

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    I left them a message about the issue.
     
  7. LA_357SIG

    LA_357SIG Milspectacular

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    Did you try installing the takedown and pivot pin, then fitting the two together?
     
  8. 03Cobra

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    yes, I just did that. I had to use a rubber mallet to get it to work, but after it is together the fit is good. unfortunately you have to use a mallet to get it apart, but I guess too tight is better than too lose.

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    I feel like I judged it too soon, I just didn't expect to have to use a mallet to get it together. once it is together it is tighter than my Stag.
     
  9. mjkeat

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    No, too tight is not better than too loose. Loose will not effect anything. Tight, to the point you need a mallet to get the receivers apart is bad. I guess you can purchase a pair of those jeans w/ the hammer loop and ware them whenever you go shooting.
     
  10. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    It will loosen. Sadly, the steel pin will wear away & oblong the
    receiver holes. Not good. :crying:
     
  11. 03Cobra

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    lucky for me 5.11 tactical pants already have the loop.
     
  12. mjkeat

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    Lucky you. Which ones?
     
  13. 03Cobra

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    These have a loop in the back
    [ame="http://www.amazon.com/5-11-74251-Cotton-Tactical-Green/dp/B000PW3OYW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353378826&sr=8-1&keywords=5.11+tactical+pants"]Amazon.com: 5.11 #74251 Men's Cotton Tactical Pant: Sports & Outdoors@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4196GnVfeOL.@@AMEPARAM@@4196GnVfeOL[/ame]
     
  14. 03Cobra

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    Obviously not really for a hammer ;)
     
  15. mjkeat

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    I own all sorts of different 5.11's and had never seen the carpenters loop. Thought maybe you could show me something I missed.

    Seriously though, having to use a mallet to separate receivers is not good.
     
  16. waawaaweenie

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    that would not be acceptable in my book

    I have built Spikes, POF, Stag, Rock River and other lowers and have never had to use anything but my fingers to push the pins in

    I would be asking for a refund
     
  17. WoodenPlank

    WoodenPlank Who?

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    This.

    Also, hi weenie.
     
  18. 03Cobra

    03Cobra

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    To be clear, the pins go right in. I use a mallet to tap the lower forward. Once it is in place the pins slip right in. I have called them, so we shall see.
     
  19. Foxtrotx1

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    what you are describing is an out of spec lower receiver. Don't let them off the hook for this. They will just keep producing ****.
     
  20. Get rid of that lower, it's out of spec. Looks like black rain focuses more on making cool looking logos and other gimmicks than in making good American firearm parts.