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Birdsong Black-T ?

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by malleable, Mar 15, 2012.


  1. malleable

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    I've been reading about this treatment & they state that afterwards you won't need to lubricate again, how is this possible? Has anyone here had this done to a firearm?
     

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    I would not agree that you will not have to lube the weapon.
    The finish does have properties to it that lessen the need for lube.

    It's a lot like NP3 or RoGuard offered by RoBar.....but Black T is better.
     

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    I have had the Black T treatment done on my 1911 Commander several years ago after shooting the snot out of the gun. The phosphate finish was looking ratty. It made the gun look great. I still use some lube, but there is Teflon in the finish. It'll scratch, but the finish is durable in normal use. Mr birdsong died a few years back, but I do believe his family still runs the business. The ph # is 601-939-7448:wavey:
     
  4. malleable

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    Do you have any pics?
     
  5. bac1023

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    Black T is one of my favorite finishes.


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  6. malleable

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    Wow! that's beautiful.
     
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    Thanks :cool:
     
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    I have a Colt Commander in Black-T and had a Sig P228 refinished in Black-T. Really like the finish properties, but do expect it to wear.
     
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    Isn't the SA Pro finished in Black-T? If so, I'll fill you in after I get mine. :cool:
     
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    Yes it is :cool:
     
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    I've never owned a Black T gun, but I would have thought that Robars finishes were a step up from the Birdsong finish.
     
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    Have to bring this thread back to life for a min. as I have a question :cool:

    For those who use Black T, can you speak to its durability?

    I am thinking of getting the slide of my G33 done in there green (kind of a OD color). But curious how it will stand up to daily carry and the longevity of the finish of a EDC firearm.

    Thanks
     
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    It's not possible.
     
  14. USSOCOM

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    I had a long conversation with Walt Birdsong on the phone a very long time ago and he related me a story from the field, so to speak. A certain group of "operators" were concerned about weapons lubricity and subzero weather. Old Walt told them "Guys, if they freeze up piss on them, cycle the action manually and continue your mission."
     
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    Sadly Walter passed a few years back.
    His legacy continues,..........rest in peace Walter.
     
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    Is there a Link to this site? I never heard of it!!
     
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    Sorry, I just never heard of it. Or if I did I forgot. Old age and all.

    Thanks for the link!
     
  20. prez1967

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    I have two 1911s in Black-T... Eventually they will all be refinished in this finish. Thats how much i like it! You still need to lube however....