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Biggest mistakes and butt chewin' in FTO.

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Rabbi, Nov 14, 2011.

  1. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

    Dec 18, 2004
    San AntonioTexas
    Something someone said on another thread sparked this one.

    What were some of your biggest mistakes, dumbest blunders and worse ass chewings you had when you were going through your FTO.

    I'll start with a funny...and scary one.

    I was driving. I made a stop. Its night.

    (this all goes down in less than 15 seconds)

    I call in plate/description/location. The guy jumps out of the car and starts walking towards me. My FTO say (yells) "Get the @#$% out and take care of this!!!!"

    I cant find the door handle fast enough and when I do, I am tangled in the damned seatbelt. I actually end up on my hands, on the ground, hanging out of the car with the driver standing over me.

    My FTO jumped out about half way through my little idiots dance and was taking charge of the situation but had the driver had ill intent, I would have been fooooked.

    I took a reaming for that but it was not half as bad as the story getting told to everyone. I was a "hanging asschad" or a "crown vic dingleberry"
  2. BL33D 4 M3

    BL33D 4 M3 SDMF

    Nov 19, 2005
    Chicago/North Burbs
    All the standard hazing stuff...dildo under the back seat, Unitrol on position 3 & siren on when I start the car, "make sure you take the Chief to lunch the first week, he likes that..." :rofl:

  3. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

    Mar 14, 2005
    I had a pretty lame FTO. I didn't have a chance to screw up in FTO cause all I did was routine crashes and reports.

    After thats another story. I spent quite a few hours in the Capt's office before I learned how to handle business.

    Now I have made 200+ arrests in the last two years, prolly 1K citations and have not had a single complaint that I can remember.
  4. ateamer

    ateamer NRA4EVR

    Field training went pretty smoothly for me. The only thing I remember that might be interesting was one afternoon when a GTA suspect foot bailed from a deputy, then took off on a bicycle. My FTO was driving, found him and cut him off. I knocked him off the bike with the car door as I opened it. We hooked him up and the sergeant, who had just rolled up, said we had to get him back to the original location, and to put the bike somewhere for the time being.

    Well, I put the bike the only place nearby where no one would see it, but the suspect would know where it was so he could come retrieve it when he got released from jail. I picked it up and tossed it over a six-foot fence into the six-foot weeds.

    I was later advised by my FTO that the sergeant said he liked my style, but that was probably not the best place to put the bike.
  5. VA27


    Mar 23, 2002

    When I went to work they gave me a gun, badge and a law book and told me to go forth and enforce the law. To be fair, the assistant chief did take me to the range to make sure that I knew which end of the pistol the bullet came out of. I worked 4 months before a slot came open in the academy.

    Mistakes? There's an old saying, "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement". OJT, the hard way.
  6. KiloBravo

    KiloBravo Lifetime Newb

    Off topic and this might be a dumb question coming from somebody who has not stared field training yet...but was the reason for the Sgts request so that the perp could be identified and so the bike could be collected later as evidence?
  7. First domestic call. Had been through the academy, and was sure that all domestics were just like they showed us: 1. Find the aggressor, which will be the uninjured one. 2. Arrest the aggressor.

    Got on scene, and found both parties had been beating the crap outta each other with fists, lamps, and telephones. I just sorta vapor locked, because I had been assured that on a domestic, there is always one party that is the abuser, and one party that is the victim.

    I sat there spinnin' the wheels trying to figure out who hit who first, before my Sgt., an old school Denver cop, came to my rescue and clarified that these two were frequent flyers, and typically both go to jail. Problem solved.

    Once pulled up in front of the PD after vacuuming the car at the car wash, and saw the patrol LT. Started railing to him about the dirty SOBs who were leaving french fries and food wrappers in the car for me to clean. LT told me that, before I got all indignant, would I mind taking the camera bag off of the roof of the car and not leaving it up there while driving around.
  8. pal2511


    Sep 15, 2002
    Sounds like something I would do.

    I remember the first month or two after I started I left the garage door open for about an hour. Oops.

    Another time within the first six months I picked up my boss and backed the car up and I heard something hit the back of my car. TUrns out I left my coffee cup on the lightbar. Ooops.

    Now as a FTO I don't really have any good stories where I chewed someone out. ....
  9. ateamer

    ateamer NRA4EVR

    Nah, he just wanted us to get the suspect back to the original deputy and get things moving along because it was really busy.
  10. Sharkey


    Nov 21, 2006
    DFW, TX
    No major mistakes just stupid stuff.

    Burned my pants on a flare in 1st phase.
    Didn't take enough control on one my first calls as primary
    Passed a slow driver in the right lane running code.

    As an FTO, I had a recruit fall asleep on dayshift and I was really upset about that.
    One recruit stated I was scarey, I'm 5'4 135 on a good day.
    One recruit recalls me drawing my ASP on a foot pursuit in Home Depot Lot. I told him I anticipate a fight once I catch him.

    I hit a Diabetic with my ASP but I swore he was drunk. Of course I had 9 years on the job at this point. :supergrin:
  11. KiloBravo

    KiloBravo Lifetime Newb

    Roger that. Makes sense. I was just curious. Thanks for he response! :wavey:
  12. msu_grad_121

    msu_grad_121 BOOSH

    Sep 16, 2009
    NW Burbs
    Only real major mistake that comes to mind was dealing with an OWI suspect while at the hospital. He was cuffed, sitting on the gurney, actively cursing at the other officers, when I chose to step in and "be the calming influence." Stood right in front of him and started explaining why he couldn't act that way guessed it, he kicked me square in the no-no button. Lesson learned, and the guys got a kick out of it. No pun intended.
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2011
  13. I bet they were busting your balls about that one for quite a while:whistling:
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2011
  14. msu_grad_121

    msu_grad_121 BOOSH

    Sep 16, 2009
    NW Burbs
    Har DEE har har! It's weird, they were the ones laughing, but I was the one doubled over... Hmmm
  15. EMTCOP


    Jun 30, 2008
    My first department was very small and my FTO was a K-9 officer. Long story short, we were searching for a DV suspect in a vacant house next door to where the incident occurred. We entered the house and I saw him hiding in a hall closet that had the door removed. My FTO and his dog saw
    him at the same time, and the dog started barking at him while my FTO was giving him commands to prone out. In my excitement I stepped in front of the dog, which promptly bit me on my right butt cheek. My pride
    was more damaged than my butt, but I did have to get another set of uniform pants.
  16. nikerret

    nikerret Mr. Awesome

    Mar 29, 2005
    Because of the dog's teeth ripping cloth or your internals becoming external? :rofl:
  17. S.O.Interceptor

    S.O.Interceptor Khem-Adam

    Dec 13, 2004
    The Rock of Eternity
    One way to solve this and assure it never occurs again is to call in location, LP, and vehicle prior to lighting up a suspect. As they vehicle slows, unbuckle. That way when you both stop all you have to do is step out. If they have ill intent, you won't have a microphone in your hand and be belted in. I know sometimes the LP isn't readable, but give all available info possible before initiating anything.

    This is also effective because if you hit your lights and they evade, you've given dispatch no information and will have to ramble it all out(if you've got any of it) as your pulse races and your adrenaline flows. And that's never good.

    If you give all info before activating your lights, then they evade, all you have to do is follow and give updated info, but you don't have to start at the beginning.

    Also, your location in the most important thing in the world. ALWAYS GIVE YOUR LOCATION FIRST!! If we know where you are, we can send help. If we only know an LP, and something happens to you before you give a location, no one is coming to help you. We can always pull video to get an LP later, or at least a vehicle description. I have been heard yelling at my trainees over the radio during their stops because they want to say "unit 1234, traffic, white Chevy Malibu occupied 4 times with Texas LP 'ABC1234'" and write a book on the radio rather than tell anyone listening where the hell they are. The proper way to do it is: "unit 1234 traffic, 1st St. & Adam Blvd, with Texas 'ABC1234', it's a white Chevy Malibu occupied 4 times."

    Some agencies/FTOs are stuck in the past and want you to activate lights, wait till the car stops, assume the people will calmly wait for you, pick up the radio, call it in, then get out of the car. Kick these people in the balls and tell them to get with the program. It's dangerous and stupid.
  18. South Fla

    South Fla ©South Fla 2015

    Oct 10, 2006
    [Playing The Devil's Advocate here. :supergrin:]

    How many arrests have you made that were NOT from a traffic stop and/or searching the vehicle and finding a roach in the ashtray or seeds in the carpet?

    You can teach a monkey to write traffic tickets. Please don't turn into a one-dimensional po-po. Learn how to catch bad guys without chasing tailights all the time. That is important, but branch out with your opportunities.

    Now, my story. I do not remember the incident, but I do remember that aftermath.

    Once, I made a Captain soooo mad, that when I entered the station for afternoon roll call, he screamed [yes, screamed...not yelled, but screamed] down the hallway for me to get my self in his office....NOW!

    When I cleared the doorway, he slammed the door to his office so hard, that all of his pictures, plaques and awards [including his FBI NA plaque] came off the wall and crashed to the floor, making a spectacular mess.

    After that, whatever I had done to cause the screaming and slamming paled in comparison to the mess on the floor of his office.

    Needless to say, I went to the 2pm-12am shift, with Monday-Wednesday off-days for about 18 months.
  19. South Fla

    South Fla ©South Fla 2015

    Oct 10, 2006
    My wife is a dispatcher of now 20+ years and she preaches LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION....the rest she can get later.
  20. GTownGlockMan


    Apr 28, 2007
    My worst butt chewin came from a possibly 55 subject in the drive through of one of our McDonalds. As another officer is running the driver through SFST, there I stand, just watching as the passenger reaches back into the car through the open window to get his smokes. Could have been getting his Glock for all I knew. Needless to say I've never had that problem again. As long as you learn from yours and others screw-ups and nobody got hurt you'll make it through and be a better officer because of it. I've been through 2 FTO programs now with the 2 departments I've worked for and I never once had to be counseled more than once on a mistake I've made. In fact I had no major issues at all this last time because I remember when I screw up and I'm always pretty hard on myself about it right or wrong.

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