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Best tradable items in a "post event" atmoshphere...

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by nightwolf1974, Apr 18, 2012.


  1. nightwolf1974

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    Ok, I'm mothballing some tradable items for bartering in a post event time. NOT willing to give up food or ammo! So, I've been thinking Whiskey, Brandy, Vodka, Rum, ect. Someone will always want a drink. Thoughts?
     

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    It will be the staples first, salt,sugar,and flour. Then if things don't get better, ammo and/or guns. Later will be meds OTCs and RXs if are for pain or infection. There's lots more items I haven't touched on.........please add if needed.
     

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    So: is this correct, you're looking for barter items that are:

    1 - inexpensive and available now
    2 - easy to store (small compact)
    3 - infinite storage life
    4 - desirable and difficult to obtain later

    ... other parameters? How about

    5 - useful now or will keep their value if there's no world-ending event

    Alcohol gets 1 (tho can be expensive now) & 3, although certainly people will be making alcohol in short order so 4 is doubtful. Also, 5.

    According to the recent "Last run to the store" thread, TP got very high on the list. It gets 1,3,4, 5.

    Thinking about primitive societies and what they need. I'd think decent quality pocket knives would maybe rate all 5. Thats' one reason I allow myself a pocketknife collection.

    Also bowls, jugs, food storage devices of all sorts...mason style canning jars...might rate all 5 if you use them. How about alcohol-making equipment?

    I think there'd be a great need for tools of all sorts. Hand tools or manual powered would be safest. How many people would need a manual drill, plane, hand saw, or brace when there's no electricity? Some hand tools might rate all 5, although some of the old style manual tools, only 4.

    Water filters, at least 4.

    A treadle lathe would be worth its weight in gold, but fails on 2 & 5. You could become the local gunsmith (with lots of skill).

    Fabric. A bolt of fleece-style cloth would be a good item to put away. Needles would suddenly be desirable, and difficult to make your own.

    See this thread:

    http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1361485&highlight=barter
     
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    Do a search - this has been covered before.
     
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    Blondes, Brunettes, Red Heads all will do in a pinch. All go very well w/ Whiskey, Brandy, Vodka, Rum, etc.
     
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    Ammo ... in "common" calibers. Something like 7.65Tokarev may have limited barter value in post-apocalyptic America.
     
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    So in a world without the rule of law you are going to expose yourself & sell ammo that the bad guys can then use against you - good plan.
     
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    Perhaps not a good plan ... but a NECESSARY plan. If I am desperate for life-saving medicine, and a "bad guy" holding THAT medicine happens to badly need ammo, I would do the trade, and take my chances fighting him AFTER getting healthy again. That "bad guy" is more likely to need 9mm than 7.65Tokarev!

    I would still have my "iron reserve" of full-power 10mm, M193/M855, and .22lr (for plinking small game) I would not have TOTALLY shafted myself by doing business with opponents.
     
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    If we're going that route:

    Why not just trade the ammo to the guy with the armored car for a lift to the good guys with the medicine you need and avoid the bad guys.

    The again, you might want to use one of your magic beans for the medicine you need.
     
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    Because the guy with the armored car doesn't need ammo; he needs food to trade for gas to operate his car!

    I remember an excellent MASH episode. The ENTIRE half-hour was Radar running around among units and groups make interlocking barter deals so he could end up with an item the 4077th operating room needed! Post-apocalyptic America would probably be comparable.

    If my magic beans can cure typhoid, I just might be in good shape to do business with the rest of the "rabble".
     
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    You have to listen to Dexters!! He always knows what he is talking about! If you don't believe me, just ask him, and he will tell you so......... :)
     
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    Whatever you choose hopefully you won't have to relocate because how are you going to schlep all of it with you?
     
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    Clean water and electrical power. Maintain control of the production means and provide it as a service to the area. Maybe include a still into that mix.
     
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    "Amateurs talk about strategy, the experienced about logistics"

    Let's think about this bartering thing. The SHTF and it is a WORL.

    How will you find the other people you will barter with?

    Are you going to go to a market? Leave your home with your barter items and go to a meeting place, barter and then skip all the way home? How will you safely get there and back? How will all the people you want to barter get there and back safely? (Convoy with air support?)

    If there isn't a market; are you going to advertise/posters and have people come to your home?

    How can you prevent people finding out you have stuff at you home?

    Who will be defending your home while you are away? Who is watching your house while you are away?

    Sure, if you live in a subdivision you could walk around to the neighbors you know but will they have things and if they do, do you need what they have.

    How is all this bartering fit into operational security and the 'gray man concept'?


    Think about it.
     
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    1. Antibiotics (Aquatic) :whistling:
    2. Bar Soap
    3. Batteries (Any)
    4. Pedicure Kits (Tweezers, Scissors, Nail Clippers, Nail Files)
    5. Steel Hand Files
    6. Coffee (Any Type)
    7. Butane BIC Lighters
    8. Bleach (Pool Shock)
    9. Chocolate (Syrup, Cocoa Powder, Candy)
    10. Vodka
    11. Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Naproxen
    12. Antibiotic Salve (Bacitration, Neomycin, etc.)
    13. Hydrocortisone Salve
    14. Ora-Gel (or any tooth/gum remedy with Lidocaine)
    15. Anti-Fungal Powder
    16. Socks (Bulk)
    17. Reading Glasses (Non Prescription)
    18. Sunglasses (Cheap)
    19. Multi-Vitamins
    20. Tooth Brushes
    21. Work Gloves / Nylon Snow Mittens / Watch Caps
    22. Paperback Books
    23. Tea Lights
    24. Toothpaste
    25. Condoms
    26. Disposable Razors
    27. Salt / Pepper / Spices (Any)
    28. Sugar
    29. Gold / Silver Chain (Junk Jewelry)
    30. Common Weapons Magazines (1911, M9, Glock, AR, AK, 10-22)
    31. Tobacco (Any Type)
    32. Sewing Needles & Thread
    33. Shoelaces
    34. Pocket Knives / Sharpening Rods, Steels, or Stones
    35. Bicycle Tire Tubes / Patch Kits / Bicycle Locks
    36. Flea Collars / Flea Powder
    37. Baby Formula / Diaper Rash Treatment
    38. Paper / Pens / Pencils / Notebooks
    39. Cold Medicine
    40. Light Bulbs (Any Common Household Type)
    41. Lice Treatment
    42. Rubbing Alcohol
    43. Small Flashlights / Headlamps (Cheap LED)
    44. Adhesives (Duct/Electrical Tape, Shoe Goo, Super Glue)
    45. Cosmetics (Perfume, Lip Stick, Eye Liner, etc.)
    46. Scissors
    47. Digital Watches (Cheap)
    48. Solar Calculators
    49. DEET Insect Repellent / Sunscreen
    50. USB Flash Thumb Drives (encrypted if possible)


    Some of these items are for the PAW...most are for Barter Town. There is always a Barter Town. Just as soon as local security is established for one. Flea/Produce Markets flourish in times of societal collapse...even in war zones.

    It's an entrepreneurial activity. Somebody (a local warlord, mafioso, or "government official") sets up the venue, providing local security and dispute arbitration...for a cut of the profit or an admittance fee. Just as with casinos, drug houses, bars, and bordellos...the rule is "Don't Screw With The Paying Customers". Repeat business is profitable for all. Capitalism reduced to its core.

    If you find yourself pushing a shopping cart down an ash-buried Road or having to fight mutant Road Warriors in the Australian desert...well, you've got a different set of problems. :upeyes:
     
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