Like I said they aren't my first choice but that link is not very far up ladder from useless. Almost all of them complaining are saying to go up to the heavier caliber, that's hardly helpful. Most of those complaining are just complaining with no actual incidents to back it up. Would I have rather had HST, yep. Would I stick with these out of a 3" barrel over the 124gr? Yep. (I had 147 and 115 to pick from, no way in hell I using 115 out of a 3" barrel.) Wanna kill these ads? We can help!