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Best all around hunting caliber.

Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by havensal, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. havensal

    havensal Nozzle Jockey CLM

    Aug 14, 2003
    Western, NY
    What's your vote for best all around hunting caliber?

    I am thinking from woodchucks to deer and maybe a bear if one walks out.

    The reason I ask is I will be helping a friend's son pick out his first rifle soon.

    I think my vote would be the 25-06. You can load up some light, fast rounds for woodchucks and some heavier rounds for deer.

    My second vote would be for .270. A littler bigger for deer but yet you can still use it for smaller game.

    I may be partial as I own both. :supergrin: + I reload for both.
  2. 93GT

    93GT The Ogre

    Jul 6, 2002
    I used to use a .30-06 and then switch to 55 grain accelerators for woodchucks. I don't think Remington loads them anymore.

  3. .30-06 here for the best all around, but I do a lot more deer than woodchucks.

    If there was going to be more shooting of woodchucks and less deer I'd say a .243 would be a better choice.

    And I don't think the .25-06 would be a bad choice either.
  4. MrMurphy

    MrMurphy ********* Moderator Moderator Millennium Member Lifetime Member

    Jan 16, 2001
    Buried in the X-files
    If you can't drop it with a .30-06, you probably shouldn't have been hunting it.
  5. Ak.Hiker


    Feb 8, 2005
    Homer Alaska
    I would take a look at the .260 Remington. Not much more recoil than a .243 with better penetration on medium game.
  6. shot1


    Apr 14, 2009
    East TN
    I vote for the 25-06 also. I have killed over 200 deer with about everything from a bow and arrow through a 45-70 and I have found that the 25-06 kills way beyond what people think it would. It drops deer dead in their tracks 99.9% of the time with a front shoulder shot. I shoot a hand load with a Sierra 117 gr bullet for deer. For groundhog the Sierra 87 gr bullet going 3300 to 3400 fps is a laser beam that will red mist a groundhog. If I was going after black bear I would use a 115 Nosler partition or a 120 Speer Grand Slam bullet.
  7. 30-06

    Always around, plentiful and wide/broad applications.

    Just like you have multiple srewdrivers, and not all can do the same as the others, just remember that rifles are the same.
  8. shadowhunter


    Oct 5, 2004
    There are lots and lots of good and very good cartridges out there, but very few truly great cartridges. The 270 is truly a great cartridge. It has a super flat trajectory, identical to a 300 magnum. You can load it light, or heavy and it excels either way. You cant go wrong with a 270.
  9. Jonesee


    Apr 16, 2009
    30-06. You can get over the counter or over the net ammo from 50gr. to 225 gr. In North America only Grizzly and Polar Bears would be too dangerous too hunt with it. And there is no doubt a bunch of those have been killed by the 30-06.

    You really can't go wrong with it.
  10. creaky

    creaky Pamwe Chete

    Dec 12, 2007
    The Orion Spur
    Another 30-06 guy.
  11. Delta-x

    Delta-x NRA Member Silver Member

    Feb 25, 2004
    In general I would say 30-06, although I dont own one.
    My rifles are 25-06 and 7mm mag., and 8mm Mauser
  12. No love for the .308?

    I thought it was designed to be ballistically similar to the .30-06?

    I'm not a hunter, so I really don't know.
  13. JimBianchi

    JimBianchi Da Da CLM

    Feb 15, 2006
    Las Vegas
    I don't even have to read the rest of the thread.

    30.06 is the king of variety.

    Varmints to Moose. Any animal in North American has can be taken with the proper load.
  14. shadowhunter


    Oct 5, 2004
    The 30-06 was considered obsolete by the military in the 50's because it was designed back in the black powder days. The case was to big for the newer modern nitrocellulose powder. So the military commisioned Winchester who redesigned it and that is where the 308 came from. All that being said, the 30-06 is still a good cartridge, but there is nothing superior about it. It is a little outdated, but so are lots of other cartridges. I would pick the 308 any day over the 30-06, with heavier bullets the 308 will out perform the 30-06 ballisticly. I still say if you had to pick only one hunting round the 270 is the one. Because it has such a flat trajectory and more muzzle energy than a 30-06. Good hunting!
  15. Ak.Hiker


    Feb 8, 2005
    Homer Alaska
    The 30/06 has more power than either the 308 or the 270. You can even load the 30/06 with 220 and 250 grain bullets if you had the need. It is pretty hard to find any load over 180 grains in the 308.

  16. Ummmmmm,

    No it won't.

    Any reloading manual will show you that you are wrong.

    The .30-06 gets approximately 100 FPS more velocity than the .308 with just about any bullet weight, and the .30-06 does much better with heavier bullets like the 180 gr., 200 gr., and 220 gr. It's hard to find reloading data for the .308 with a 220 gr bullet.

    Also the .308 came from the .300 Savage, not the .30-06.
  17. chevy01234


    Jul 19, 2004
    .280 one of the most versatile rounds there is in the hunting world!
  18. ajstrider

    ajstrider Silent Warrior

    Apr 17, 2005
    Western Kentucky
    I think a 30 caliber is needed here, for the bear hunting and big deer hunting. I prefer the 308 but the 30-06 is essentially the same. I would use one of these two cartridges, which is why I own 4 308 rifles.
  19. The 30.06 is what all other cartridges are compared too, there is a reason for that. You can't be any more versatile than the 30.06! It has over 100 years to it killing everything in North America and then some. You can't go wrong with one. If you aren't hunting anything bigger than deer or you might hunt elk or black bear one time than a 25.06 would be great as well! Esox357.
  20. klt1986


    Feb 28, 2007
    These kind of statements amaze me. The .308 is not superior to the .30-06 and the .270 does not have more muzzle energy than the 30-06.