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Best 223/5.56 for putting down injured deer?

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by RetailNinja, May 29, 2011.


  1. RetailNinja

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    The boss swiped our dept. issued shotguns and all I have left is my 45acp and my AR. I've never hunted or shot an animal on purpose other than the 12ga, but I'm told that the 223 is a crap round for putting down injured deer on the side of a roadway.

    I'd like something that can do it quickly in as few shots as possible. If there's really nothing out there, I can try the .45.

    This came up last night and as I arrived on scene the doe kicked the bucket, saving me the trouble, but my Sgt. had no clear answer.
     

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  2. finz50

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    A .223/5.56 through the lungs or brain is just as deadly as a 30-06, especially at that close of a range....
     

  3. lwt210

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    Lead through the head.

    I have dispatched two on duty. 9mm on the first, .38 special the second time.

    Both did the job well and put the critters out of their misery. In your situation, I'd opt for the .45 auto for that purpose.

    I am assuming you carry a good hollowpoint .45 load.
     
  4. msu_grad_121

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    I've only put one down, with a 9mm. A friend of mine that has dealt with this a lot tells me good things about the 62 grain ballistic tips from Black Hills, or their 77 grain OTM, but like finz50 was saying, at that range, I doubt it'll matter.
     
  5. blueiron

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    I hunt with a 270, but I've only used a 12 ga (and/or my K-Bar) to put down a wounded deer at work. We used to be able to check out 22 cal rifles to put down deer, but they pulled those years ago. I had an FTO who used to check out a 22 rifle back in the day, and had no problems putting one down. Any 223/5.56 round shouldn't be an issue.
     
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  7. RetailNinja

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    The dept pulled our HPs, having us use them at range days until they were all gone, and replaced it with WWB ball. I still carry two mags of gold dot in my door cards.
     
  8. blueiron

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    You are using ball ammo for duty use???
     
  9. Kahr_Glockman

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    WTF!:wow:

    If you guys are using WWB Ball for duty,..... EJECT!!!!
     
  10. MeefZah

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    Ummm... I'm not the great white hunter by any means, but I've put down a few deer, and the ones I've shot in the head with a handgun have mostly tried to get up and walk off afterwards, sometimes looking at me like I had annoyed them. Brain stem shots seem most quick / useful, and provide the fewest dirty looks from the deer afterwards. Junction of the neck and back of the head. With a rifle I'd think a heart shot would cause relatively fast exanguination.
     
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    A veterinarian told me to aim from behind ear to the opposite eye and transect the brain.
     
  12. blueiron

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    This.
     
  13. blueiron

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    Unfortunately, that is not the case. Deer, elk, etc. can run surprising distances with solid lung and or heart shots with hunting calibers. I had to track my first deer for about a 1/3 of a mile before it finally ran out of adrenaline and blood after a solid lung shot with a 7mm Remington Magnum, using a 150 grain Nosler partition bullet. A cranial shot is the best way to go to put down an injured animal.
     
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    Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement. Generally with an injured deer, you're going to have the benefit of shooting at a non-mobile target at close range. The .223 is a perfectly suitable deer killer through either the melon shot method mentioned above, or a well placed heart-lung shot (yes, it will take longer with a heart-lung shot). Most officers in my area (where the deer are practically a vermin they are so overpopulated) use their handgun and can do the job with minimal expension of ammunition.

    FWIW, my choice of .223 load is Speer Gold Dot in 64gr. It's bonded, but not as insanely priced as the Federal Tactical Bonded (TBBC).
     
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  15. USAFE7

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    If you are shooting an injured deer....a head shot would be the quickest and most humane means of dispatching it. With that said...whatever ammo you have in 5.56 will do that trick.
    A 600 meters head shot with a SS109 will drop a human INSTANTLY, so at close range, a deer is east pickings.
     
  16. Roadkill_751

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    5 or 6 rounds?

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    The ammo I use for my M-4 is Hornady 75gr BTHP TAP. It make a fine mess of a head..
     
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  17. lwt210

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    So they are okay withi overpenetration and taking out bystanders?

    Is there a reasoning behind this other than cost?
     
  18. VA27

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    .223? I use a 22 with whatever ammo I have. Subsonics work as well as HV. Shot placement is the key.
     
  19. Denied

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    I carried a 22 colt woodsman in my bag just for deer and other injured animals, it did the job as long as the shot was in the right place, usually head shots.
     
  20. Unistat

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    Stop. Start a whole 'nother thread on this subject.