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Best 1911 for under $1k

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by willowofwisp, Nov 28, 2009.

  1. It's currently the "Golden Age" of 1911 offerings. Quality control & the amazing tolerances made possible by modern CNC equipment (tighter, slicker, faster, cheaper) have not only given us more GREAT options but have required the serious 1911 manufacturers to become & stay competitive with each other. S&W and STI are perfect examples. Pick your poison. You're gonna' find opinions on both sides of the fence, but none that say you've made a terrible choice! I like S&W better. But ONLY because I've had such (complete) satisfaction with past S&W Customer Service. Their professionalism has earned my repeat business. I've had no dealings with STI. But I suspect they're every bit a good.
  2. okie

    okie GT Mayor

    Oct 28, 2001
    Muskogee Ok.
    I forgot about Smith having the FP safety, the STI for sure:supergrin:

  3. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    The Spartan has my vote as the best entry level 1911 on the market.
  4. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

    Mar 13, 2001
    Not a chance
    Trojan has no MIM fire control parts the Spartan does.

    Spartan is on par with the Smith as far as internals the trojan has higher quality internals, hammer, sear Slide stop.
  5. Ruggles


    Jun 13, 2005
    Had both myself. I really like STI and still have my STI Lawman (great 1911), also STI is Texas born & bred and so I am. That being said I have the base S&W model 5" 1911 (108285) and I think it is a much better 1911 than the Spartan I had. The Spartan was solidly built but had two issues which I did not care for.

    1. Too tight, I thought my Baer was tight, this thing made it look like a WWII production gun! Maybe not that much difference but the Spartan was too tight for my liking.
    2. Thumb safety snapped right in half during use. Not a huge deal but it was not really under any excess stress when it occurred.

    The Spartan is as stated not a true STI in reality but still a very nice 1911, I just prefer the S&W. I am not really concerned about the EE as it works perfectly, S&W did it right on the EE. The FPS does not bother me either.

    Not sure if you could go wrong with either but I vote S&W.
  6. sdsnet

    sdsnet NRA Member CLM

    Feb 8, 2007
    Why not get a Colt Series 70 Reproduction for $999 ? They are beautiful pistols.
  7. Glockernaut


    Feb 2, 2009
    If the quality of the internals are close between the SW and Spartan, which would have the better slide to frame fit and serve best as a base model for future upgrades. Are the SW/STI slides and frames casted or forged? DO either of these actually serve better than say a less expensive SA mil spec as a base for future upgrades?
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2009
  8. For me, the flat trigger helps me get the pad of my finger on the trigger more consistantly. I don't have to think about it like I do with the other 1911 I have (Para GI).

    Note: I am a long time rifle/shotgun shooter and I have just gotten the pistol bug since I got my CHL, so I'm a noobie at all of the 1911 pistol stuff. :dunno:

    HAIL CAESAR Senior Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    In my shop
    If it is metal then it is stainless steel. That is a good thing as it is metal and is a good part. You can use a file on that too to knock off the tips of the checkering. Start off with one draw stroke at a time and test to your preference.
  10. txbonds


    Dec 30, 2008
    I may very well try this first before jumping to replace it. It's mainly at the very bottom near the butt of the gun that is at issue due to the shortness of the grip it is digging into my palm.
  11. FM12

    FM12 I need AMMO!

    Jun 17, 2007
    Well.I HAD a S&W sku 108284, but had to sell it for some reason. It was the best 1911 I've ever had or even shot. I am sick now, cant replace it for what I had in the first one. The best one, I say, out of about 25 or so 1911s, including several Gold Cups.
  12. bootsx


    Jun 27, 2009

    Just spoke to Jay Dunlap at STI and the fire control parts are EDM wire cut forgings. So the record is straight.

    HAIL CAESAR Senior Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    In my shop
    That would be me about replacing the recoil spring with the correct Wolff spring. It is the first thing I used to do when getting one. It is the first thing I ever tried when there were issues with the 4 inch Kimbers and it fixed 95 percent of the feed issues.
  14. txbonds


    Dec 30, 2008

    So it was back on page 3. :)

    I went to check out the wolff spring site and see that they have normal 22lb replacements as well as XP replacements at 23 or 24lbs. Same thing for the firing pin springs, normal power plus XP and XXP. Any idea on which is the recommended to replace with on the 4" kimber?

    I am wanting to just pickup a spring replacement kit for it when I order a new recoil spring, that way the firing pin gets a newer spring as well.

  15. rangersniper308


    Apr 12, 2009
    NW Ohio
    I would buy this... I did. and would for sure buy it again! This is my curent and last off duty. I have had and tried everything else in the past... Now nothing but springfield.
    OUTSTANDING Customer Service! and a quality product.
    24 oz 3in with a rail... chip 7 rd mags for 8 rounds, shoots GREAT and less felt recoil than
    my xd-m 40 Duty Gun
    The emp in anything other than a nine weighs a ton more.
    The emp 40 weighs more than my 4in champion lightweght as 31 oz and as for kimber quality... well :(
    I need to say no more.
    you cant go wrong and there are a couple on here in the firearms for sale fourms. 1 with a rail and one without at a great price
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2010
  16. bootsx


    Jun 27, 2009
    This is the reponse I got from STI. It's good enough for me. I like my Spartan and the parkerizing is easy to care for.

    Frank<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    The hammer is wire EDM cut out of solid steel. I have had this confirmed by the sales manager here. The steel material is machined on mills to the correct dimensions and then go through the EDM process. <o:p></o:p>
    From there it goes for polishing and dressing of the hooks. These are not castings.<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p> </o:p>
    As a company policy STI and its employees do not participate in online discussions. I will look at the thread but I cannot participate.<o:p></o:p>
    Best regards<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p> </o:p>
    <o:p> </o:p>
    <?xml:namespace prefix = ns0 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><ns0:personName>Jay Dunlap
    </ns0:personName>Sales Accounts Supervisor
    STI International Inc.
    114 Halmar Cove
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  17. Ford302Glock21

    Ford302Glock21 Chrome Horsie

    Dec 3, 2004
    Orlando FL
    I had an S&W Stainless 1911 and it was great. It looked real nice and worked.

    Now future wise, I will only go with internal extractor type design. I didnt mind the firing pin safety since most other modern pistols have them. In fact I figured it was a good thing. Some say it hurts your trigger pull by half a pound or something like that which I would never notice.

    From what that article says though that Spartan sounds like a good piece and I probably would sport one. The only thing I dont like about my Springfield is the use of MIM parts.
  18. jethro21


    Nov 28, 2003
    So here is what I have been thinking....I just bought a RIA that I really like and am planning on doing a few mods to...but the wife and I were talking and with our tax return this year (unless Obama swipes that from me too) we are each going to get ourself something spendy we have had our eyes on.

    I have a bunch of .40s&w that I have been collecting throughout my time on my department, and our armorer is much more willing to shell out boxes of 40 than 45, SO, I am thinking I might like to pick up a government or commander in .40.

    I am looking for input, experience, advice and options if anyone has some. I would like to keep the price at or under $1000 if possible. I have done zero research on this, figured I would come here first.