I am looking for some beginning powder for both 223 and 30-06 and have read as many threads on powders as I could find with a quick search and the ABC's on powders last night. For 223 I prefer the slightly heavier bullets at 68-70gr HPBT and will be target shooting at 100 yards mostly. For 30-06 I like the 168 gr HPBT bullet and will also be target shooting at 100 yards. Hopefully I'll be able to get on a range with up to 600 yard capacity in the next year or two as well so the distance may stretch out somewhat. Powder seems to be a scarce commodity and I have any opportunity to get some Vihtavuori N140, 8lbs for $200. Price is high compared to Wideners ($162 for 8lbs + ship) but they only have the 1 lb in stock for $24.50. Widener's states that the N140 is similar to H380, IMR 4320 and Herc Reloader 15. 8 lbs is a lot to buy and if it isn't going to work that well I don't want to be stuck with a load of powder I don't want to use. Will N140 work well in both the 223 and 30-06? Or, would I be better off first buying some 1 lb bottles of something specific for 223 and another specific for 30-06? H322 seems to be fairly popular for 223 and Herc Reloader 15 for 223 with heavier bullets. H335 seems to be for 223 lighter bullets. What's a good powder for 30-06 168 to 180 gr? Any feedback will be appreciated. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!