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Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by sierrafast, Aug 28, 2010.
Any comments or opinions?
1) reduced recoil 00B , 2) 3 inch 1 buck (if you can find it) , 3) BB's
are my three pics
The only reason to EVER use birdshot for home defense is if you are under attack by a covey of quail. Or maybe a rabid parrot.
Serously, I came across this at Academy and wondering about it.
"Ultimate" is a dumb name for burgers, too.
Use buckshot, preferably OO, reduced recoil if available. Avoid magnum loads/3" of any type. Birdshot of any type, as well as BB, is for hunting little critters. My opinions.
000 to #4 buckshot in 2 3/4" is my range of 12 guage given a choice. Right now my 870 is locked away with some nickel plated #4 ready to go and some more 00 buck right underneath it.
Thanks for the replies. I currently have my 870 loaded with 3"Buck shot 00. The 3" holds more pellets than the 2.75. Why should I avoid the 3"?
Unnecessary blast and recoil for limited performance. Just ask yourself if the juice is worth the squeeze when you go from 2 3/4" to 3". If you find that it is, then keep the three inch. For 0-15 yards I would rather have one extra shell, less noise/blinding flash, my hearing/eyesight, and sacrifice three pellets and 75 fps. Personal preference, YMMV.
Little gain in performance with a fair decrease in usability. More recoil and blast, less magazine capacity and control.
2 3/4" is plenty for in the house... 00 buck is probably best, though I keep a few slugs on the side saddle for just in case. I wouldn't go any smaller than #2 shot if you're really looking for more pellets. Reduced recoil 00 works great. A little less oomph for a pretty tight pattern at short ranges.
You will notice the lead #4 buck averaged 14.5 inches of penetration and a pretty nasty wound cavity. At ranges of 3-15 yards for the furthest straight line distance, I feel pretty good about the little guys doing their job, if I do mine. The fact that they are plated probably contributes to penetration for my load.
Don't confuse your birdshot with buckshot when picking up shells.
00 Buckshot, nothing less!
Be advised that the gel used in that test is incorrectly calibrated and over-represents penetration by a range of up to 15%.
Bird shot is for birds, buckshot is for bad guys.
2.75" #4 Buckshot - 7+1 in my 1300 Defender. SHould give me enough time for the wife to load the SKS with the soft tip 7.62x39 rounds. Now I just need to get a sling/bandoleer for reloads!
My Rem 870 is loaded with Remington 00 reduced recoil buck shot. As stated above, birdshot is for birds. Buckshot is for bucks trying to rob you & rape your wife. Or worse yet...trying to rob your wife and rape you.
What others have said.
I personally have no use for magnum shells as i'm not attempting to whack bears, geese or high altitude aircraft.
My brother is a big guy and not afraid of recoil (6'2, 240lb). He fired TWO 3" magnum shells from his Mossberg after i told him "not gonna be fun" and had enough.
Considering that for some years due to advice from a friend, he had loaded magnum turkey loads for HD, he now sees that my advice of low recoil 00 Buck was far wiser.
I prefer No. 1 Buckshot. Still penetrates well for bad guys and it makes more holes. 00 Buck is easier to find though, and works well.