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BB or Bird shot #2 for HD?

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by sierrafast, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. supermanct


    May 31, 2010
    1) reduced recoil 00B , 2) 3 inch 1 buck (if you can find it) , 3) BB's
    are my three pics

  2. cj5mrt


    Dec 26, 2005
    Central FL
    The only reason to EVER use birdshot for home defense is if you are under attack by a covey of quail. Or maybe a rabid parrot.

  3. sierrafast

    sierrafast Coleccionista

    Apr 20, 2007
    Southern TX
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2010
  4. El_Ron1


    Apr 15, 2004
    Redneck Sparta
    "Ultimate" is a dumb name for burgers, too.
  5. Use buckshot, preferably OO, reduced recoil if available. Avoid magnum loads/3" of any type. Birdshot of any type, as well as BB, is for hunting little critters. My opinions.
  6. 93GT

    93GT The Ogre

    Jul 6, 2002
    000 to #4 buckshot in 2 3/4" is my range of 12 guage given a choice. Right now my 870 is locked away with some nickel plated #4 ready to go and some more 00 buck right underneath it.
  7. sierrafast

    sierrafast Coleccionista

    Apr 20, 2007
    Southern TX
    Thanks for the replies. I currently have my 870 loaded with 3"Buck shot 00. The 3" holds more pellets than the 2.75. Why should I avoid the 3"?
  8. 93GT

    93GT The Ogre

    Jul 6, 2002
    Unnecessary blast and recoil for limited performance. Just ask yourself if the juice is worth the squeeze when you go from 2 3/4" to 3". If you find that it is, then keep the three inch. For 0-15 yards I would rather have one extra shell, less noise/blinding flash, my hearing/eyesight, and sacrifice three pellets and 75 fps. Personal preference, YMMV.
  9. Little gain in performance with a fair decrease in usability. More recoil and blast, less magazine capacity and control.
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2010
  10. Remjin


    Aug 25, 2010
    2 3/4" is plenty for in the house... 00 buck is probably best, though I keep a few slugs on the side saddle for just in case. I wouldn't go any smaller than #2 shot if you're really looking for more pellets. Reduced recoil 00 works great. A little less oomph for a pretty tight pattern at short ranges.
  11. 93GT

    93GT The Ogre

    Jul 6, 2002

    You will notice the lead #4 buck averaged 14.5 inches of penetration and a pretty nasty wound cavity. At ranges of 3-15 yards for the furthest straight line distance, I feel pretty good about the little guys doing their job, if I do mine. The fact that they are plated probably contributes to penetration for my load.

    Don't confuse your birdshot with buckshot when picking up shells.
  12. m24shooter


    Jan 21, 2009
    Be advised that the gel used in that test is incorrectly calibrated and over-represents penetration by a range of up to 15%.
  13. WoodenPlank

    WoodenPlank Who?

    May 15, 2010
    NW Florida
    Bird shot is for birds, buckshot is for bad guys.
  14. GlocknSpiehl

    GlocknSpiehl NRA Life Member Silver Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Miami, FL
    2.75" #4 Buckshot - 7+1 in my 1300 Defender. SHould give me enough time for the wife to load the SKS with the soft tip 7.62x39 rounds. Now I just need to get a sling/bandoleer for reloads!
  15. ET.


    Jan 11, 2010
    My Rem 870 is loaded with Remington 00 reduced recoil buck shot. As stated above, birdshot is for birds. Buckshot is for bucks trying to rob you & rape your wife. Or worse yet...trying to rob your wife and rape you. :wow:
  16. MrMurphy

    MrMurphy ********* Moderator Moderator Millennium Member Lifetime Member

    Jan 16, 2001
    Buried in the X-files
    What others have said.

    I personally have no use for magnum shells as i'm not attempting to whack bears, geese or high altitude aircraft.

    My brother is a big guy and not afraid of recoil (6'2, 240lb). He fired TWO 3" magnum shells from his Mossberg after i told him "not gonna be fun" and had enough.

    Considering that for some years due to advice from a friend, he had loaded magnum turkey loads for HD, he now sees that my advice of low recoil 00 Buck was far wiser.
  17. SDGlock23

    SDGlock23 Glockoholic

    I prefer No. 1 Buckshot. Still penetrates well for bad guys and it makes more holes. 00 Buck is easier to find though, and works well.