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BATF agent wants to see my guns???

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by vtducrider, Apr 10, 2012.

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  1. vtducrider

    vtducrider

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    And if I refuse, his supervisor is going to issue a subpoena for them. WTF!!!

    I popped up on their screen because I made multiple gun purchases 2 times. Both times 2 handguns. They have already visited me once to "talk". I didn't let them see my safe that time since they told me I didn't have to. Now the agent is calling again, and he is coming over tonight.

    Advice?
     
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  2. norm357

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    Tell em to get a warrant and well, I am not a nice person.
     

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    Wow!!! I'd be on a first name basis with them if that were the case here.
     
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    Do they just want to see the handguns in question or your collection?

    I'm kinda surprised your FFL didn't advise you not to do transfers of multiple handguns.
     
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    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    Without a warrant, you dont have to let them.

    In all honesty, Why? What are they looking for? if it is something as simple as verifying you have the guns (and there are a lot of reasons they might want to do that) it may be easiest to simply produce the weapons (outside your house) and let life go on.

    Otherwise, Lawyer up.
     
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    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    Tell'em to get a warrant. In the mean time, lawyer up. See if you can find a shyster lawyer who's not afraid of suing the government too.

    I am surprised that they hadn't contacted me last year when I made a few purchases with multiple handguns/longarms each time. Hell, I bought five guns in two different shops within an hour of each other.
     
  7. RoundBrown

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    If you have nothing to hide, let em see. If they have to get a warrant expect your house to be turned inside out.. your call
     
  8. MadeInAmerica

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    You know far better than do we whether you have anything to hide or not. If you still have the four handguns you bought the two times you bought two guns at one time, you might be able to solve the issue quickly by letting them see the four guns. If on the other hand you by chance do not have those four handguns, or you have something you may not wish to show the agents or you think there might be a possibility that they could connect you with criminal activity, you should be seeking advice from an attorney. Preferably quickly.
     
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    I have bought multiples many times. Never heard from anyone. Something ain't right here.
     
  11. Dan_ntx

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    Move out of Vermont... Or at least stop buying guns there. The whole process you are describing sounds foreign to me and makes me thankful Texas (as silly as some of our laws are) does not engage in this practice.

    Good luck.
     
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    The agent asked to see the entire collection. I am sure I don't have all the guns on their list, since I buy and sell quite often. A few times through local private sales, which of course is legal in Vermont. I am not sure how far back their records go.

    I have nothing to hide, but it just ticks me off. The agent said he was working on trafficking cases to Canada. I am only 40 miles to the border. Whatever... I have already called my lawyer. He is coming over too.
     
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    How big is your collection? I've got a buddy who complied with an ATF request to visit. I get the impression they just wanted to see if he was mentally stable.
     
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    Happens here too I'm afraid.
     
  15. vtducrider

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    More than 10, less than 100.
     
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    My friend who's works for another alphabet agency got dinged by the ATF after transfering 4 or 5 nagant pistols. Being in border state along with the 7.62 caliber threw up red flags, they(a t f) apparently thought they were Dracos. His boss told them to fly a kite.
     
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    Thats helpful.
     
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    Do you want to make a stand for your rights or comply and get it over with?

    I'd probably make them get a warrant just to piss them off if I had nothing to hide.
     
  20. teumessian_fox

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    I would guess that might be the problem. If you buy and sell "often," then you might be functioning as a dealer without a license.

    That would be a really bad scenario for you.
     
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