Back your data up folks!

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Sinister Angel, Apr 22, 2005.


  1. Sinister Angel

    Sinister Angel I'd Hit It!

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    Well, the thing I've always feared happened. Dataloss on the drive that actually has important ****. Didn't lose the whole drive, but I lost alot of **** that I didn't need to lose. I'm talking this is the kind of **** that is really making me think about finding a few hundred bucks to a few grand to spot data recovery.

    This is the quote from DriveSavers

    What sucks is I was debating on backing up that drive last night or waiting till my next re-os. I shouldn't have been a cheap **** and burned the extra DVD or 3. **** **** ****. My backup of that drive is dated Dec. 28th of 04. That's missing alot of **** I've engineered since then, as well as a bunch of logs I'd like to keep. ;u
     

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  3. bobby_w

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    USB/Firewire external disk drives are your friend.
     

  4. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    My Iomega 120gig fire/usb2 is my friend!
     
  5. 100% agree. After using Zip drives, etc. for years, I now use a Maxtor One-touch drive. Much easier, reliable, simpler. And the things just keep getting bigger, faster and cheaper all at the same time.
     
  6. fastvfr

    fastvfr Ancient Tech

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    + FREAKIN' 1!!!!!!!

    These are absolutely not pieces of optional equipment today.

    Just like Uninterruptible Power Supplies, USB2 HDD's are vital to anyone who owns a PC worth more than $200.

    Just good, solid, CHEAP insurance against the inevitable.

    Hope it works out for you, SA!!
     
  7. Sinister Angel

    Sinister Angel I'd Hit It!

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    An external HD is nice, but with this (seemingly anyway) random dataloss, I'm nervous to backup data to another HD. I like optical media for the fact that it's pretty hard to thrash the data on them. That being said, an external HD is better than nothing.
     
  8. bobby_w

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    True that optical is a good choice to use, either CD or DVD, but...

    You did not use either one in this case. An attached drive would have saved your skin and some skins $$$ in this case by a simple drag and drop without having to go to the trouble of getting an optcal disk from the cabinet, loading it in, launching your copy application, running it, selecting your files, copying them, ejecting the disk, labeling it and finally storing it safely away.

    Hope the drive salvagers rescue your files in any case. I have had to use them for clients and they were worth every penney in most cases. Paying $800 dollars to rescue a million dollars worth of data was a good ROI in one of the cases.
     
  9. MB-G26

    MB-G26 Bk2MiscResource
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    This one is shown as for win98, but it might be applicable to XP:
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
    http://www.pricelessware.org/thelist/fil.htm
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
    same pricelessware page
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils3.html
    May be not applicable, but I figured I'd include it just in case....
    Maybe this would help 'inventory' what's left, etc., assuming anything 'is'
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils3.html
    The sovernet Son of Spy site had an avert box, with these in it:
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  10. MB-G26

    MB-G26 Bk2MiscResource
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    For later, when (hopefully) things are back to normal:
    (Backup proggies and related)

    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils3.html
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
    http://www.karenware.com/powertools/powertools.asp (also on pricelessware.org site and on Son of Spy sovernet site)
    (pricelessware.org, I think, and also on Son of Spy sovernet site)
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils1.html
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
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    part 3/3 I hope is next
     
  11. MB-G26

    MB-G26 Bk2MiscResource
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    more backup programs, including partition savers and such:

    http://www.pricelessware.org/thelist/sys.htm
    Potential useful utilities?

    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils3.html
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils5.html
    Partition managers, etc., type utilities:

    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
    Registry backup/auto-saves/restore, etc. utilities:
    are here: http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html

    http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils4.html
    Probably not helpful, but I included it just the same:

    I sure hope you get your data back..... if something in these three replies helps, I'll be a happy camper for your! (It was also a good excuse to not be finishing finding the bottom of the floor in my bedroom, moving furniture, and unloading the dishwasher, hehe.....)
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  12. MB-G26

    MB-G26 Bk2MiscResource
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    http://www.lurkhere.com/forum600.html
    http://www.lurkhere.com/cgi-bin/forums/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=301&forum=DCForumID16

    (thread on one of the file recovery proggies I think I included in my 3-part list of hopeful helpfuls)
    (see more below re PC Inspector - including DL access via pcworld.com listing)

    "PC Inspector 4.x - File Recovery"
    Mar-12-05, 00:06 AM (EST)
    (excerpt)
    m

    Added via edit: here's another, although older thread on the same site:
    http://www.lurkhere.com/forum600.html
    Conferences Tools and Utilities Topic #144
    http://www.lurkhere.com/cgi-bin/forums/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=144&forum=DCForumID16

    Here's a couple more which seem related, including referencing useful/workable apps to help recover the lost data: ... [/quote]

    http://www.lurkhere.com/forum600.html
    Conferences Tools and Utilities Topic #105
    http://www.lurkhere.com/cgi-bin/forums/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=105&forum=DCForumID16

    mentioned in later post in same thread:

    http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,22917,00.asp
    Also listed on this pcworld page:
    http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/collection/0,collid,1295,00.asp
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  13. Sinister Angel

    Sinister Angel I'd Hit It!

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    Thanks! There about 6 possibilities that I'm looking at right now.
     
  14. MB-G26

    MB-G26 Bk2MiscResource
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    Here's hoping you end up having to take less time to achieve your goal than it too me to dig them up, LOL
    (hopefully w/one or more of the proggies I dug up w/do the trick instead of shelling out megga bucks to a data recovery place)

    Good luck! And start watching for CDRs on sale - so you can implement one of the backup programs once things are all situated :)
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  15. Daver308

    Daver308 In Charge

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    Yea but with an attached drive you can create an unattended backup scheduled task, which is the most important part of backing up data.
     
  16. proguncali

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    I've gotten burned before and it sucks.

    It forced me to get my tape drive up.

    Luckily there are only two scenarios that I can't get my data back, one is the drive won't spin, the other is the drive "drops it's firmware" so to speak.

    I just had the second one happen to a client. The 20 Gb drive thought it was a 1.2Gb drive.
     
  17. MB-G26

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    Last wknd kiddo's excellerated choir performed, along w/all the other school's choirs, their Spring Concert - and then had awards ceremony and such immediately after. I filled up the first 'smart card thing' of the dig. camera, and instead of deleting blurry shots to make more room I accidently hit the wrong button (camera manual has been misplaced for years around here somewhere) and DELETED ALL THE SHOTS! Wahh!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I had a shot of each and every choir, each individual performance, etc. from start to 3/4 way through the program, then had to change to the 2nd card. So, basically, I lost all the frame-by-frame documenting of the start-to-almost-finish I had wanted to do.

    One of the programs I dug up and posted about claims to be able to retrieve deletions from 'smart media' type cards, too.... and I DL'd and installed and all that - only to learn that if the program shows it CAN retrieve the lost data, you then have to BUY with $$$$, in GIG increments, a min. one GIG for $100 - to actually make the program retrieve what it found it can. Apparently it retrieves through the mfg's servers or something..... and for this you have to pay :(

    So, the card it sitting here waiting for me to find time to try one of the other (supposedly) free programs that can retrieve deletions from those 'media card' things.

    D@mnit.
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  18. Jtemple

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    Agreed. I have 3 of them. I have 710 GB of storage in my house. That's plenty. External storage is so cheap now; I picked up a 160 GB drive at CompUSA for $40. Another $30 buys you a USB 2.0 enclosure.
     
  19. Tennessee Slim

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    It never ceases to amaze me how many people will spend hundreds, even thousands of dollars on PCs but they don't think what they produce on that PC is worth a couple of hundred dead Prez's to protect against catastrophic failure. Kinda like seeing a guy riding a $20,000 touring motorcycle and wearing a $29 K-Mart helmet.
     
  20. Cochese

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    I just got a 120GB Western Digital USB2 one touch ext HD.

    $140 at best buy
    -$50 dollar gift card I had laying around
    -$30 manufacturer mail in rebate
    -$30 Best Buy mail in rebate
    _________________________________

    =$30 for piece of mind

    ;)
     

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