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Aurora Shooting Survivor Begs Our Next President For Gun Control

Discussion in 'Gun-Control Issues' started by 4Rules, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. 4Rules

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    In the chilling ad (Published to YouTube on Sep 30, 2012 by maigcoalition), Stephen Barton sits alone in an empty theater before showing off the long scars that cover his neck. He asks Americans to "demand a plan" for gun control violence and keep "The Dark Knight Rises" shooting in mind when watching Wednesday's presidential debate.
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  2. CanMan

    CanMan Silver Member

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    I can see the passion in his plea... but more 'gun control' will fix gun violence about as well as Obama has fixed unemployment. Why is Mr. Holmes still with us anyway?
     


  3. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

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    What he should do is ask the doctors who medicated the shooter to be jailed. Just about all of these insane shootings involve prescription medications.
     
  4. eb07

    eb07 Sharkin'

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    Laws, regulations, and an army of police officers will not protect you from a violent, dedicated attacker. Training and arming yourself will. Why don't people get this?
     
  5. PhotoFeller

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    What if someone started a campaign against easy availability of alcohol featuring families of victims of drunk driving accidents? An extension of this effort could expose brutal deaths through beatings at the hands of drunken relatives and strangers.

    A campaign against cell phones could spotlight people who lost love ones in accidents caused by texting drivers.

    Alcohol, cell phones and guns don't kill people, its the fools who abuse them that do. Why is this so hard to comprehend? Why do gun killings arouse so much emotion while drunk driving killings do not? Drunk drivers kill far more victims than shootings, but society doesn't seem to notice. Is this another manifestation of liberal media focus?
     
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  6. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

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    I'm serious, most of these crazed shooters were on PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, why hasn't anyone gone after big pharma?
     
  7. Captain Caveman

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    Because big pharma has WAY too much money behind them. Nobody is willing or able to fight them. And concerning alcohol, people already hold the drinkers responsible. It's a double standard.
     
  8. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

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    I think it's because big pharma has our politicians in their pockets. I think that the victims should do a class act on them, it's really their fault.
     
  9. Captain Caveman

    Captain Caveman a.k.a. DaReaper

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    Class actions are symbolic. The victims don't get anything, just the attorneys on both sides. To get at big pharma, it needs to be a HUGE award to one victim and it needs to be all over the media. It'll never happen.
     
  10. F350

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    I read the other day a newspaper story that stated this guy works for Bloomberg's "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" so it is not like a sudden conversion for him.
     
  11. PhotoFeller

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    I don't understand your point, Captain. Shooters are held accountable under the law. Drunk drivers are held accountable, too. Where is the double standard?

    My point was that guns get as much attention as the shooters who use them (the firearm make, model, magazine capacity, number of guns involved, number of bullets carried by the shooter and stashed in his vehicle, etc.). Aside from the efforts of MADD, alcohol gets a free pass when drunk driver accidents occur, and nobody launches a campaign for tougher alcohol control legislation.

    Go figure.
     
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  12. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    Clueless "Sheep" trying to increase the size of the herd. :upeyes:
     
  13. Captain Caveman

    Captain Caveman a.k.a. DaReaper

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    That's exactly what I was saying. In a shooting, the tool gets as much if not more blame, as the user of that tool. In a drunk driving case, it's all the user not the tool or tools. Don't forget the vehicle.
     
  14. Beware Owner

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    I hope one day it does, actually, I hope it happens all the time!
     
  15. Psychman

    Psychman NRA Life Member

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    So the fact that Holmes abused narcotic pain medications and went out and shot people means the drug companies are to blame? What a simplistic thought.
     
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  16. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    Good. If that idiot can get Obama to say something anti-gun, he'll pretty much guarantee himself a loss. By the way, being a crime vicitm doesn't make you any more of an expert on crime than you were before.:upeyes:
     
  17. Kilrain

    Kilrain Señor Member

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    In this case his initial victimization does appear to be making him a professional victim.................
     
  18. MAC702

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    It was "gun control" that required him to be an unarmed victim in a room full of unarmed victims. I don't get it...

    Since the guns were ALREADY illegal in that theater, maybe they should just outlaw murder.
     
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  19. MAC702

    MAC702 Senior Member

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    Indeed. It is proof that you are NOT.
     
  20. rhikdavis

    rhikdavis U.S. Veteran

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    That safety in numbers thing methinks. :supergrin: