...they kept coming, but I kept putting them down! I had some fun today blasting about 40 water-filled gallon milk containers. Got a little wet. Drenched the place. My Glock 20 provided the firepower. Thought I would share some of the results. 1st Up: 200 gr XTP vs. 200 gr WFNGC Hardcast. Both loaded to 1200 fps. Scenario: Douglas fir 2X4, then patch of leather from a work glove, followed by 4 layers of denim. All backed up by gallon milk jugs filled with water. EDIT: Re-checked my notes on the following XTP result. Change in italics. The XTP punched throught the stud, leather, and denim. Stopped in the 3rd. No expansion. Not a particularly impressive displacement of water. The board looked a little splintered with a smallish hole. 100% weight retention. 2nd from left in photo. The WFNGC was far more impressive. Big hole in the board. These bullets are said to "drill through the target" and this was true in this situation. It was a big clean hole through the 2X4. The hole in the leather and denim were noticeably bigger than the XTP. The bullet completely blasted through 5 jugs and kept on going. I did not recover the bullet. Dang it. Wood fragments were found in jug 3. Verdict: WFNGC is the clear winner. Bigger destruction, better penetration. 200 gr XTP @ 1200 through leather and 4 layers of denim. No wood. Penetrated 3 milk jugs and stopped in the 4th. Text book expansion with 187 grains of weight retention. 3rd from left in photo. 200 gr XTP @ 1150 fps: No leather this time. 4 layers of denim only. Nearly went through 5 jugs. Penetrated the far wall of the 5th and stopped inside the 5th jug. Text book expansion. 100% weight retention. 4th from left in photo. The next two were shot through 1 layer of leather and 4 layers of denim. Factory Win 175 gr STHP (1150 ave velocity from my G20): Punched a hole in the far side of the 3rd jug and stopped in the third. The 1st two jugs were absolutely destroyed. 100% weight retention. The jacket was just starting to peal away from the core (see photo below). This shows that you don't need huge velocities to wreak some havoc. 5th from left in photo. 165 gr GDHP @ 1335 fps: Blamo! Jugs 1 & 2 were destroyed. The bullet punctured the far side of jug 3 and the near side of jug 4 before stopping in the 4th. Perfect mushroom. 100% weight retention. It looks like the petals probably reached max expansion and then were folding back toward the shank. .7 - .8" ending expansion. 4th from right in photo. The next two were shot through 4 layers of denim but no leather. 155 gr GDHP @ 1335 fps: Big splash. 2 jugs were blasted big time. Puntured the wall of the 3rd jug but stopped in the 2nd. Huge expansion. Minimum expansion 0.8". Max 1.2". Lost about 5 grains due to shedding a petal. I feel more confident with the 165 grain version at this velocity. 3rd from right in photo. 155 gr XTP @ 1400 fps: Blasted the first two jugs. Almost penetrated the third before stopping. Classic XTP mushroom. Very flat with almost no shank left. Lost about 15 grains of weight. 2nd from right in photo. I had 3 jugs left so for the heck of it I sent a 180 grain Power Bond @ 1150 fps. Easily went through all three. I did not recover this bullet. No photo. What did I learn (or add to my previous experiences)? 200 gr WFNGC hardcast bullets are nasty. A 165 grain Gold Dot is a nice bullet. Factory Silvertips are probably all that's needed for SD. Controllable, with pretty darned impressive effect on target. Denim does not prevent XTPs from expanding, but wood does. Sorry for the poor smartphone quality photo. View attachment 225808 Wanna kill these ads? We can help!