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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by gsp174, Oct 15, 2012.


  1. gsp174

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    Hope these officers make it out of this ok. After viewing the comments I can only think of how weak the critics are. It takes officers like this to put their foot down and say enough is enough.
    If anything the cuffs should never of come out until he was compliant or restrained. Too many broken fingers and swinging half hooked cuffs to not get them on the ground.




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  2. Mayhem like Me

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    is there a video?

    That link did not show one?

    Did this happen in America, it would not seem so as written by the biased dewchbag...What a horrible piece of trash called an article.
    In the picture the "defenseless man " has a good 5 inches and 20 lbs or more on the officer.
     

  3. gsp174

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    The video is at the bottom.
     
  4. Mayhem like Me

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    no workee for me I'll get it on my phone later.
     
  5. collim1

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    What a lousy article. The suspect fought tooth and nail to the very end. Hardly defenseless.

    I feel bad for the male officer, he was on his own the whole time. Nothing she did was effective in the least.
     
  6. Ohio Cop

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    Lmao, one of the comments says "we don't live in Berlin anymore"

    Wtf?


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  7. blueiron

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    Most Germans are by nature, an ordered and polite society. They generally don't go off and publicly act out simian behaviors as a challenge to the police.

    The non-spec. baby batter that said this has likely never been outside of the continental United States.
     
  8. blueiron

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    'A.T.M." was referred to as "D.O.C." at my place.

    Direct, Order, Compel. It also commonly inferred by cops that if you failed D.O.C., one would soon be in the custody of D.O.C. [Dep't. Of Corrections].
     
  9. TXCOPPER

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    What a completely unbiased well written piece of journalism.... Or not!

    Video won't work from my phone, but the article is completely useless as far as what happened since its so slanted!




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  11. nikerret

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    He pulls away, throws his arms around, and gets into a fighting stance right before the male LEO throws blows. Looked like a good use of force, to me. It was +1, just as I was trained. Hard empty hands on an actively incompliant subject who was under arrest. After the first few blows, I can't really tell what was happening.
     
  12. TXCOPPER

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    I never understand an officer pulling out handcuffs for a non-compliant suspect who is not already being controlled by the officer.

    I remember a video out of NYPD with several officers fighting a suspect (he may have been naked IIRC), all with their cuffs in hand. Just meant that they were fighting with one hand, and giving the suspect a weapon to fight back with. 😕Facepalm


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  13. Mayhem like Me

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    Saw the video the kid had a pretty good guard... only the first couple of shots landed then he went fetal ... What a joke he shoved and resisted the officer
     
  14. Dragoon44

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    The kid showed aggression from the moment he stood up. it it were me He would have been toast early on when he jabbed his hand at the officers face twice.
     
  15. Pepper45

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    That was a horrible article. You can tell the cop was asking him several times, and had a fairly relaxed posture, right up until he pulled away from the female. Then the "make" came out. I'll work with that guy anytime.
     
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    Don't you guys know it's now ask, ask, ask again, kinda sorta tell, beg, ask, attempt reverse psychology, beg, cajole, appeal to reason, plead, and finally, bleed out as the suspect gets away?
     
  17. Dragoon44

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    I prefer the "Old school method" Ask, tell, thump.

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    I can tell you one thing.... if it took that many punches, he wasnt hitting him hard enough. :)
     
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  19. Ship A'Hoy

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    Perp made the first stupid move by resisting. Good use of force by the male cop.
     
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    It seems they don't teach it here any more. There's some 9 step process that includes asking 30 times, begging, and pleading, and then calling someone like me when that doesn't work. Then when I get involved it takes about 7 seconds to get compliance (in most cases), and the inevitable, "You're not as nice as that young officer."

    "You're right. I'm not."
     
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