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Article: "Illegal Gun Sales Run Rampant On Internet"

Discussion in 'Gun-Control Issues' started by TactiCool, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. TactiCool

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  2. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    Old news. But! Lies… tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies. It is not illegal to sell to someone that can’t buy through an FFL. It isn’t even illegal to sell to a felon. It’s illegal for the felon to possess but not to sell to them. Wrong as someone might thick that to be it is the truth and to promote it to be otherwise is a lie. It’s not an illegal sale it’s an illegal purchase. Lying Liberals! Again!

    And again if they actually did make any “illegal” purchases they should be investigated and prosecuted. Hey you ATF&E guys need to stop selling guns to criminals, harassing honorable citizens and dealers and do your job by going after those that break the law and boast about it in the media. Like the Mayor of NYC and his ilk.
     


  3. samurairabbi

    samurairabbi Dungeon Schmuck

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    Standard-issue obfuscation to help a political cause.

    An INTER-state internet gun sale must be done by the FFL route. The buyer must do the 4473/NICS shtick to gain possession of the gun. This is true for ANY interstate internet-based sale.

    In many states, an INTRA-state transfer can be done privately, whether in person or internet.

    A person stating he is UNSURE whether he can pass a check gets many people bent out of shape, but that statement carries little weight. In some states, a private INTRA-state transfer must go through an FFL. In other states, it doesn't. In Indiana, I can sell a gun privately to ANY provable Indiana resident of sufficient age. If it later turns out HE possesses the gun illegally, my selling it to him is "probably" not legally actionable; the authorities would have a heavy burden of proof that I had enough cause to reject the sale. If I were to refuse to sell to him simply because I am concerned because he is a member of a legally "protected" group, I could be prosecuted for THAT action.
     
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  4. Jameson4all

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    Shipping a firearm to another state needs to be done through an FFL. Otherwise you could buy a gun online from an FFL and have it sent to your house.
     
  5. WmHBonney

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    And that would be sweet!
     
  6. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    That is incorrect. It is just as illegal to knowingly sell to a prohibited person as it is for them to buy/possess a gun:

    Heck it's a federal felony under that section for you to sell a gun to your friend that you know smokes marijuana.
     
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  7. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    When I was born, you could order guns from the Sears catalog and have them shipped to your house. That changed in 1968.
     
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  8. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    I didn’t say “knowingly”. However after rereading it does look like I was inferring that. Thanks for the information.


    Funny how one may “legally” sell an automobile to a connived drunk driver or even someone that committed vehicular homicide. A convicted arsonist can walk into any gas station and purchase gasoline and the proprietor is perfectly legal in selling it to him even if he knows the guy is a convicted arsonist. However if one knows that the government has branded someone unfit to purchase a firearm “THEY’RE” branded a criminal for sell them one. “Shall not be infringed” means nothing but other deadly things that ARE NOT PROTECTED in the constitution are just fine for ANYONE to purchase. IDIOCY! :upeyes:
     
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  9. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    Somewhere between 1958 and 1961 my brother bought a Springfield 30/06 for $18.00 through the NRA and it was delivered to our door. My God what have we let become of or freedom? :frown:
     
  10. TexasFats

    TexasFats NRA, TSRA, SAF

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    Never, never, never, never, never, ever expect facts or fair play from the gun control crowd. Not now. Not in the future. Their goal is a totally disarmed society, and if you believe that it has anything to do with reducing crime, then you need to avoid people who want to sell you a bridge in Brooklyn. Gun control is about disarming peasants so that the would-be tyrants who sneak among us can have an easier, safer time when they come to force their notion of Utopia on us poor, benighted peasants.