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Are these in the States?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by bac1023, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. bac1023

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    I know nothing about these new Astras, other than I've been looking at them for the last year or so on their site.

    This isn't the old Spanish Astra. The company has moved to Switzerland and is producing 1911s. Just because they're Swiss, doesn't guarantee quality, but they look good enough.

    I'm not big on the roll marks, but a Swiss 1911 really intrigues me.


    http://www.astra-arms.ch/us-model

    http://www.astra-arms.ch/daytona


    I've never seen one online for sale, but how could a 1911 not be imported? Maybe they aren't available at all yet. :dunno:

    Unfortunately, the only contact is in Switzerland.

    I really like that Daytona. Its similar to a Colt Gold Cup, but with checkering. It looks nice, damn nice, in fact. :cool:

    Thoughts? :)
     
  2. majette

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    they look nice and, being swiss, should have outstanding fit and function. no rail model limits their appeal to me.

    i think they would have a hard time selling in the us because the price point would probably be up there with that 3K ithaca 1911. the swiss made sphinx line of pistols were designed around the tanfoglio/witness model but their higher price led to their demise. here is a compact one on gb that is at 900.00 with 10 days left in the auction:

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  3. SouthpawShootr

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    Curious that they would go to all that trouble with the Daytona, which in spite of the rollmarks looks really good, and leave it with a standard profile hammer and grip safety. Still, I believe I could live with it. Swiss made, huh? That's got to be expensive. I can't imagine them not trying to get it imported. Should be a cakewalk getting that Daytona in. They probably have something they haven't worked out yet. Like how they're going to produce it in Switzerland and not have to price it like a Baer to make any money. It'd be a shame if they showed all the promise of a really nice production gun, then end up like a Taurus. :supergrin:

    They could do a better job on those grips (straight cut sides?:dunno:), but that's minor detail. That's about the only thing that look a bit ratty on them. I'd move that right side Swiss shield to the top of the slide, if I were them and leave the country of origin to the frame.
     
  4. drc767

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    Those roll marks (Paragraphs) kill it for me.......:)
     
  5. bac1023

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  6. bac1023

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    ...because its modeled after the Gold Cup National Match. :)


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  7. bac1023

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    Depends on the quality.

    I'd be willing to pay a premium to have a Swiss 1911, if the quality is good.

    These do look good.

    Plus, I have enough $2300 American 1911s, why not try something new? :cool:
     
  8. bac1023

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    No rail makes them appeal to me. :supergrin:

    I like Sphinx pistols quite a bit. I've got the Competitor, which was their top of the line model before the 3000 series was introduced.


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  9. .45Super-Man

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    The older swiss ITM AT84 was a CZ75 "clone" made by solothurn. They were built to a much higher standard than the original. Due to marketing(or lack thereof)very few realized what they actually were, aside from just being another "clone" pistol. Eventually, the AT84 was phazed out in favor of the "Sphinx". Anything manufactured by Solothurn is excellent in every way. The swedish mausers are considered as some of the most well built, accurate bolt actions ever to see military service.
     
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  10. bac1023

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    I know you can only tell so much from pictures, but I have to say that this Daytona looks very promising.

    Check out the attention to detail and fitting. Also, I love the bluing. Its a pretty gun.


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    Other than the left side "ASTRA" roll mark (not pictured), I think this is an absolutely beautifully done 1911 with classic styling. :cool:

    If its as good as it looks, I'd pay $2300 for one. For the price of a plain jane Wilson CQB, you could have something very unique.

    Hell, it might be as good as a Wilson. That checkering looks superb.







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  11. FLIPPER 348

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    ........well it's got the right sized ejection port, hammer and grip safety!
     
  12. bac1023

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    The Daytona has the lowered port.
     
  13. Jim Watson

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    They LOOK ok, except for the checkering on the heel of the slide which is unattractive to me.

    I don't think they were smart to use the Astra logo, few Americans will associate the name with high dollar pistols.
    I might be wrong, this might be the next Valtro.

    A friend owned one of the AT84 Swiss CZ/Tanfoglio derivatives. It LOOKED nice but was not a particularly good shooter. The owner was shooting PPC Master class at the time and could readily tell it was not as accurate as other name brand guns like Colt, Sig, and Beretta.
     
  14. paul45

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    It isn't the old Spanish Astra? How then do they use the Astra name?

    Oldsters like me would associate the Astra 1911s with the old A80s or A90s.
     
  15. bac1023

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    I actually love that treatment. :)
     
  16. bac1023

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    I meant the company moved is all.

    That said, this sort of thing happens sometimes. Look at Springfield and Iver Johnson. They're both newer companies with old names.
     
  17. bac1023

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    It does have a similar exotic feeling to it, now that you mentioned it.

    I would really like to see and handle one of these.
     
  18. PlayboyPenguin

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    Just looking at the pics it appears to have a "Dan Wesson like" level of quality to the build. It does appear like it might be more expensive though.