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Are Libertarians Complete Idiots?

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by G29Reload, Nov 5, 2013.


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    You have to ask yourselves what kind of person would vote for Cucinelli. It isn't someone whose main aim small government but someone whose main aim is the imposition of his weird religious ideas on others and is prepared to sacrifice good government to that end. Cucinelli's ideas are very weird indeed! If Cucinelli is a major part of the Republican ethos they will never hold power again and they will not deserve to. The Duke of Wellington is said to have said of some new recruits to the war in Spain against Napoleon, "I don't know what they'll do to the enemy; but, by God, they frighten me." The Republicans and anyone who wants small government and freedom should take the same view of the religious right in politics just as much as they should take that view about the socialists. They are allies not worth having.

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    Unfortunately, the Republicans have dirtied their brand by constantly pushing for big government schmucks over small government candidates. If you're looking for someone to blame, then blame the GOP establishment. They spent less than a third on the Virginia election this year than they did in 2009. (link)

    Why would a Libertarian want to vote for a Republican when doing so has led to example after example of big government advocating disappointments. For a true small government advocate, voting for a Republican is not much different than voting for a Democrat.
     

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    Its only funny if.youre intellectually dishonest.

    Rs have been forced.to.vote for the lesser of two evils in recent years. In any primary available ive voted against the eventual candidate in favor of something better ornin romneys case, a blank ballot in protest, nothing at all.

    This case makes a perfect fool out of so called principled Libertarians who were had by a trojan horse and turned their back on someone quite close to their supposed ideals. Lower taxes, roll back gun.control, smaller government.

    Yeah thats just hilarious. Now they have a clinton bag man in charge who will spend all his time laying the groundwork for hillary. Hes not statist at all, is he?
     
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    Except none.of that is true. Youre just parrotting the dem.lie in the mccaullife ads that spewed all over the va media market.

    Ken was ag in va past 4 years. Did any woman ever find her access to birth control blocked? Beyond silly.

    But that was the ad. Even though there are 3 supreme court precedents since the 60s that prevent anyone from blocking access to birth control, thats what the dem ad would have you beleive.

    Youre just mindlessly parroting the lies.of the statist left. Not even remotely true.
     
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    This.
     
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    I never trusted nor supported the LP. I'm strongly in the liberty movement camp, but do not consider myself a libertarian any more. And who knows why they did what they did. He was much farther off base than just a mileage tax. He is a big government neo-lib progressive of the first order. Could just be anti-moralist zeal for all I know. Hear alot of that around here.
     
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    I'm not laughing at the voting results, only this thread, considering the lack of self-awareness the Republicans have in voting for big government schmucks time after time and then criticizing another party for falling for the same problem.
     
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    So for years and years the new uber-libertarians mock, criticize, demean the republicans for not running their type of conservative nad voting republican against the democrats. Then, the pure socially superior LP puts up a candidate that is the arch-typical neo-liberal progressive backed by the liberal facist machine, on purpose or mistakenly (it's called vetting), and everybody should just blow it off because the GOP ran moderate to liberal candidates first? Sounds alot like the Dear Leader supporters that don't allow criticism of Him because Bush did it first. The LP made a political move, either on purpose or mistakenly, that puts them in a bad light. I won't ignore their ineptitude and hypocrisy, and others should take heed that the LP will ruin the liberty movement as sure as any other political party.
     
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    Except that theres no one like that here. Sometimes you just have to.play the hand youre dealt.
     
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    No, in this case its not even remotely the truth. Cucinelli would have been a great win. The most pro liberty conservative we could hope for. Id be happy with him as president.
     
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    Pro liberty? Anti-gay, anti-decriminalizing marijuana, supports repressive sex laws, supports extreme abortion laws, tries to blend church and state, anti-science and slightly a conspiracy nut hardly sounds like a pro-liberty kind of guy.
     
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    Now that's funny. :rofl:
     
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    Except none.of this is true unless youre a gullible sap shoving twinkies in your piehole while absorbed in a democrat commercial, like the ones we saw run in the dc tv media market. So deep you could shovel it.

    The man just spent 4 years as ag. Did any of this even remotely happen? As a resident of the past dozen yrs i can say resoundingly, no. Utter nonsense.
     
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    Exactly. And not a person I want in charge of anything important.
     
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    Man, it must be nice to live in a world of denial. His past proposals and laws he fought for are all on record. Of course, to the right wingers, this is just normal "moral majority" junk that they see no problem with. The rest of the people on the other hand...
     
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    Those are all potential negatives assuming they go beyond his personal beliefs. Not much happened in those regards during his 4 years as AG. How did you feel about his stand on economics, government corruption, size of government, 0bama care, gun rights, federalism/state's rights, taxes, state spending? He had public positions on those issues too.
     
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    "Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli’s quest to uphold his state’s anti-sodomy law ended in failure Monday, after the Supreme Court rejected Cuccinelli’s plea to overturn a lower court ruling finding the law unconstitutional."
    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/cuccinelli-loses-his-long-war-against-sodomy

    He's an anti-freedom right wing zealot. Or he's just kind of crazy.
     
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    I agree with him on his fiscal policies, but he is anti-liberty on too many other topics for me to ever support someone like him again. I am tired of having to choose between a big government extremist vs a slightly less big government extremist.
     
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    His socially conservative views, with which you disagree, trump his views on fiscal policies in your mind. That's the choice we all have to make. I'd support the guy who would perhaps give "us" a shot at fiscal resurrection and defeat of big government programs like ACA. We all make choices. Do I like the fact that a guy wants gay "marriage" to be illegal. Nope. Do I care? Not really at this point. Do I like the fact that the other guy wants NY type gun control? Nope. Do I care? You bet I do. It's priorities for me.