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AR Suggestions

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by nastytrigger, May 12, 2011.

  1. nastytrigger

    nastytrigger Mediocre Member

    Apr 10, 2005
    A friend of mine is looking to purchase his first AR. He's shot my NFA Bushy lower, LMT 10.5" upper before and a friends Bushy Modular. His budget is around $1200 for everything (rifle, optic, accessories).

    I offered to him to buy a stripped lower and we could help him build what he wanted. Plus, he'd learn how to maintain his rifle while building. Instead, we took him to our favorite gun shop and looked around. He really liked a S&W M&P15 Sport ($607), DPMS Sportical ($607), and a CMMG piston ($1,000). He doesn't like the typical front post sight, he'd rather have one that folds, or none at all. He looked at pretty much all thirty AR's that they had (Bushy's, RRA's, Colt's, Stag's, etc) and said he wanted to wait and think about what he wants exactly. I'm not too certain about these rifles. Can anyone give me any feedback to which would be the better choice, or if he should spend a little more for something else?

    He rarely shoots his guns that he has. He's brought me his guns before to clean because it started to rust... :wow:. I was thinking he needed something with chrome lining too.

    So far, I know he wants a flat-top AR. 5.56mm 16" barrel. No front post sight. He wants to put an EOTech on it too. He also mentioned he doesn't want to mess with the NFA that I did for my SBR. Basically it'll be a range toy/SHTF rifle.
  2. boomhower


    Feb 14, 2010
    North Carolina
    Any of the midtiers would serve his needs fine. RRA, Stag, S&W, etc.

  3. nastytrigger

    nastytrigger Mediocre Member

    Apr 10, 2005
    Anyone have any feedback on the M&P15 Sport?

  4. zhix


    Jan 31, 2010
    I used to think Stag was the best choice around for the money, until I got one of their SBRs.
    It took two trips back to the factory to get it running right, their customer service has proven to be horrible.
    Even after speaking to the president of the company I am still currently waiting to see if they return three magazines I sent to them which they tried to blame for the rifle not functioning.
  5. bullittmcqueen

    bullittmcqueen Gunfighter

    Feb 18, 2011
    Leesburg, GA
    He would probably be very happy with the M&P sport if it seems he is hardly ever going to shoot the gun.

    However I would strongly recommend him having a front sight base, you will have a hard time finding a low cost AR without one, and it's the most reliable. If he's dead set on a flip sight it's easy enough to remove the fsb later and put on a gas block and flip sight.
  6. WayaX

    WayaX Lifetime Member

    Feb 27, 2007
    With that budget I recommend a Colt and some range time to learn the system. Then he can worry about what to put on it.
  7. IndianaMatt


    Jul 8, 2008
    Colt is always my first recommendation. They make the rifle to beat. I think you can get a match target for like $1200, depending on your location.

    Rock River Arms is a pretty good choice though, also.
  8. DieselNut


    May 21, 2007
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    If he can get a good deal on a colt then get it. Otherwise paying the extra $$ isn't gonna benefit him one bit if he's not gonna shoot it that much, unless he wants bragging rights. I'd suggest a spike's for him. Better quality at about a mid tier price.
  9. Gator Monroe

    Gator Monroe

    Jan 30, 2011
    Oak Run Ca.
    (Have Him) Buy a J&T or DelTon Middy KIT & build it on a McKay A2 lower He will learn the platform & have his first AR pattern Rifle(Built by himself) for Well under 700.00 .
  10. M&P15T

    M&P15T Beard One

    Apr 7, 2011
    Arlington, VA.

    I get the impression from your post that your buddy really isn't interested in building an AR, so buying one ready to go sounds like what he wants to do. Since your friend really doesn't want an FSB (which is a wise choice), that's at least a starting point for him. He might want to look at what I own, which is a S&W M&P15T, which has Magpul folding sights and a front quadrail.

    There are many more options out there, so I would suggest that your buddy take his time and do his research.
  11. Kansas Slim

    Kansas Slim Oxymoron Man

    Jan 21, 2011
    Northeast Kansas
    The Stag Model 8 is a fantastic value in a piston gun, if he wants to go that way.


    Feb 1, 2006
    S.A. TEXAS
    For $600 The s&w m&p 15 Sport is hard to beat .
  13. RyanNREMTP

    RyanNREMTP Inactive/Banned

    Jun 16, 2007
    Waco, Texas
    If he's not going to clean it or do up keep on it, why go middle to high tier. Sounds like a waste of money and a good gun.
  14. Reports on the Sport are trickling in, and all are favorable. Putting mine on layaway Monday.
  15. iLift45's


    Jan 29, 2011
    I have a Colt HBAR and RRA that is all tricked out with an ACOG sight and Magpul parts. I love the RRA!
  16. DRT


    May 6, 2001
    Get a colt and save up to get the optic a later date. Make sure to get a barrel with 1:7" rifling.
    Last edited: May 14, 2011
  17. Fabius


    Jan 13, 2007
    Just bought a Sport as my first AR. 250 rounds downrange without an issue. No complaints and the quality is excellent for the price. I'm a pistol shooter and didn't realize how much fun a rifle could be until I got the AR. Now I understand why the platform is so popular.
  18. redbrd


    Sep 20, 2005
    Lots of good suggestions above. I do caution not getting a front sight. For any red dot you have to have a back up sighting system that doesn't require batteries. A set of folding sights is a must. My front sight is not a folding sight but it doesn't bother me at all using the EOtech.
  19. nastytrigger

    nastytrigger Mediocre Member

    Apr 10, 2005
    Thanks for all the feedback. I've shown him this thread and he was 'fingering' my SBR again today. He likes my Aimpoint, but he's still set on an EOTech. I also showed him how my magnifier works and he really loves that idea too.

    He's still not certain which he wants. Too many options out there... Plus, he's having some issues at home (wife), so he has other things on his mind :upeyes:. The problems aren't with the gun, just normal marriage stuff. I'm glad I'm single :supergrin:.
  20. mjkeat


    Jun 17, 2009
    Spikes or BCM middy.