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Apex Update

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by ninjag19, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. ninjag19

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    For those who are interested, now they are saying that the new extractors will be available early in March.
     

  2. samuse

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    I ordered one for a 3rd gen and it also shipped Monday.

    Is there something newer I'm not aware of?
     
  3. ninjag19

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    I think that only the gen3's are available now. They told me the gen 4's will be in in March. Did anyone get a gen 4 extractor fro Apex recently?
     
  4. up1911fan

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    No. I was going to order one of each, but only the Gen3 was in stock.
     
  5. hk_shootr

    hk_shootr NRA Life member

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    I have a new, uninstalled Apex extractor, two spring loaded bearings & a spring.
    Will be listing these parts later today......pm me if anyone is interested.
     
  6. vtducrider

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    I ordered a Gen3 extractor today. It appears to be in stock.
     
  7. vtducrider

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    I got the APEX extractor on Monday, and installed it. I have not had a chance to range test yet... but right off the bat, the extractor is providing much better contact with the casing. Here is my quick test, field strip the gun, slip a live round in the slide so the extractor claw catches the rim, and shake to see if the round falls out. It only took a couple of light shakes for the round to lose contact with the old set up. Well, I couldn't get the round to come loose with the APEX. Great sign!
     
  8. WayneJessie

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    Please take the time to let us know the performance before the APEX and after the APEX.
     
  9. jim7777b

    jim7777b E9 USN Ret Millennium Member

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  10. packinaglock

    packinaglock John 3:16

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    Months ago.
     
  11. vtducrider

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    Well, with the snow storm in the forecast, I made it down to the range last night before it got dark. Here is what I brought with me:

    Gen3 G19 EXO with the APEX extractor kit installed
    Factory 33-rd mag loaded with 124gr FMJ target reloads (4.8 gr of Win 231, 1050ft/s)
    Factory 33-rd mag loaded with 124gr FMJ hot reloads (6.5gr of Power Pistol, 1200ft/s)
    Factory 17-rd mag loaded with 115gr FMJ Wolf Ammo (steel casing)
    Factory 15-rd mag loaded with 124gr FMJ target reloads
    Korean 15-rd mag loaded with 124gr FMJ target reloads

    Results:
    7 casings from the hot loads ejected over my head
    3 casings from the target load landed on my head (as opposed to beaned me in the head)
    5 casings from the target load landed on my right arm (I am right-handed)
    2 Wolf casings ejected to the left

    Conclusion:
    The Apex extractor kit did not improve the erratic ejection problem that my G19 has. 17/113 were "erratic". The gun has the 336 ejector installed when I bought it NIB at LGS. I think I am going to put the stock parts back in, and send it back to Glock. That is the only option left at this point, other than selling it. Ugh.... Wonder if Apex will refund me.
     
  12. up1911fan

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    They won't refund your extractor. It's a high quality part, but nothing can be guaranteed.
     
  13. ctious

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    You guys are making this way too difficult. Do what I did. Pull the extractor weld it up. Recut it to the right thickness and angle. Problem solved. Took all of less then a half hour.

    Hint. Use a grinder wheel to rough it. Use files to fit it.
     
  14. WayneJessie

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    I watched a veteran shooter run his new FNS9 for about 50 rounds. Over half of the empty shells hit him square in the face. His shooting form is great. I have two Austrian-made handguns and both have erratic / weak ejection. It's more than just a poor extractor. Maybe a combination of things. I have three handguns that will throw brass at 4:00 all day in an erea usually the size of a #2 washtub(for you country folk).
    Your best bet is to send it in and let Glock fix it. I think they know what the problem is and will fix it only if a customer complains.
     
  15. vtducrider

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    I think I am going to send the g19 back to Glock. I think at least they will install the 30274 ejector. Maybe it will work better with the APEX extractor. It is recommended by APEX. Although I am not confident that Glock will be able to fix the problem completely. Many members here have tried and failed.
     
  16. HKLovingIT

    HKLovingIT Resident Evil

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    I tried everything with one G17 I have and in the end the simple fix was to order a Gen 4 9mm trigger housing from Midway, pull the ejector out and replace the ejector in the Gen 3 trigger housing with it. No more problem.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/225860/glock-trigger-housing-with-ejector-glock-9mm-generation-4

    It had been back to Glock already and everything in it was swapped at one time or another except the slide itself. At the time they would not put the updated ejector into a Gen 3. Maybe they will if you make enough of a stink. :dunno: I would just do it myself.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2013
  17. WayneJessie

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    Midway has them on backorder. I guess someone else has been installing them.