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Anyone having a hard time getting a job?

Discussion in 'Veteran's Forum' started by Linh40, Oct 31, 2006.

  1. Linh40

    Linh40 Member

    May 27, 2005
    Well I ETS last year and still haven't had a job. I know that we get 5 points for being a vet when applying for a Gov job. So I applied to a brunch of them and for some reason they alway found someone that was better. (It's not like I'm not qualified, for example for GS-4 they want someone with 1 year of experience well I got over 3 years in the army. Plus GS-4 pay is less than E-4 pay so I don't get it. I seriously doubt there are a brunch of 10 points vet applying for the same jobs as me. Also it's not my resume because it pass the machine part and a person see my resume. So unless the person hiring is anti-vet or something?

    And they say that the Gov hire vets first. I applied for GS-4 and 5 positions and this is going no where.

    Oh well if I don't get hired by the next semester I'm starting school.

  2. Delta

    Delta ThExtremeMember

    Mar 17, 2002
    North Texas

    To be honest, I would go to school anyway. They can never take that away from you.
    Then you can get a better paying job in the future.

    I messed up when I got out of the Army 22 yrs ago, and didn't take advantage of the schools and education available. I kick myself in the butt daily.

    If it is available, take it all

  3. JimmyMN

    JimmyMN Veteran Member

    Sep 24, 2005
    Linh40 said:
    Make plans to go to school, with a job as your backup plan, not the other way around.

    OK, so I'm old, 59 yesterday. Many guys that went to Nam when I did and came back never used the education benefits they had, and for the most part regretted that decision. You only have one shot at this, get it right. And, right is education.

    Not bragging, but here's my story. Used my VA benefits to finish my last two years of college (graduated from Michigan State) and get an MBA (Wisconsin). Following that I had a great career, thanks to the benefits that funded the education that prepared me for business.

    In January, 2005 I retired, partially due to health issues. I loved the work I did, but it would have been a totally different story without education.

    Get to school, forget working until after you get the education that you are finding out you need to compete in today's job market.
  4. Linh40

    Linh40 Member

    May 27, 2005
    Thanks Delta and JimmyMN. I think this is a sign for me to go to school.

    After Iraq it seems like I'm not interested in things anymore and as for the work I applied to many and got one job interview from Home Depot (Who hires the most vets etc...) They won't even hire me. But then again I found out that I would have hated the work there anyway.

    So I'll start preparing for school already applied to a community college for the spring semester.

    Thanks again,
  5. Delta

    Delta ThExtremeMember

    Mar 17, 2002
    North Texas
    Good job

    You will be better off in the long run, control your own future.

    Take care Brother

  6. JimmyMN

    JimmyMN Veteran Member

    Sep 24, 2005
    Get your energy up and get out of your current'll do well in school, you just need to get started. Best wishes, Linh40.
  7. Hack

    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

    Linh40 I'm a vet working for the Bureau Of Prisons. I don't frequent this part of the forum that much, (although perhaps I should). But, in noticing that you are saying that you are from California under your user name, I know of a couple of institutions that are short handed right now. You can get a job under VRA, especially if you have seen combat, or received hazardous duty pay for it. Look this upBOP. Like I said, "I work for them." Any questions, PM. Keep in mind if you're over the maximum age, you'll have to do something else. You might also try working California corrections. Very good pay for that outfit. BOP is good if you want to transfer to any place in the nation that they have a facility and an opening, but don't pay as much as CA.
  8. Hal9mm


    Jun 9, 2002
    I hear ya, i'm still looking for a job, thought I had one but the damn poly cut me from the process.

    still looking at LE though.
  9. Hack

    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

    When I hired on through this agency,
    BOP they did not do the poly. You might think about it as a springboard into other Fed LE if that is your interest. They do carry on a back ground check during your first year, even after the initial prehire. I know of one guy who is currently retired from the US Treasury Department, who started where I currently work at. I like working in the field of correctional LE, (and BOP is considered a USDOJ LE component), so I stayed with them. I know others right now who transferred from BOP to ICE, (Immigration Customs Enforcement), and they seem to like that OK. Keep at it, you'll get in somewhere, (as long as your record is decent).;),
  10. FL-obiwan


    Feb 11, 2005
    During the early '70s VietNam vets had trouble getting a job because employers thought we'd go nuts and start killing people (among other reasons). I decided to go back to school for my B.S. and regret not staying for my MBA. The job recruiters wondered why I was looking for my first "entry level" job at age 26. As soon as I mention the military, their eyes glazed over and I knew that I was out of luck. I then took 5 years off my age and eliminated all references to the military on my resume' and job apps. Got some jobs. Now, 30+ years later I again work for the Gov, and they appreciate my prior service!

    This is my first time on this forum, but I will be back again regularly.
  11. I spent four years in the army back in the 80s. I had a good service record and ETSd E-5. While I'm proud to have served my country, I can't say it's ever helped me in the employment department. I applied for a few government jobs and never even got an interview, much less an offer. So I went to school and am now an attorney. Personally, I think school's the best choice for just about anyone.

    Some of you may want to rip my head off for saying it, but it's sad America doesn't treat its vets better. Those who serve in the armed forces lay their lives on the line. I think they should get a few more breaks for doing it.
  12. xcrewman

    xcrewman Desk Jockey

    Jul 18, 2001
    Death Valley, CA
    I ETS'D back in 92', attended college right after heavy w/units. Second year I applied to several ABC fed gov. agencies and was offered jobs from three. I accepted on offer from XYZ...

    2nd year into the job I tried completing my degree during the evening after work and found myself exhausted from all days of work, late and irrate, thinking to myself down the road...

    Well several years later along comes........wife:chatter:, kids:baby: :angel: and :snoopy: :odie: kinda of a :juggle:

  13. DriBak

    DriBak GUNS UP Millennium Member

    Jul 4, 1999
    West Texas
    Go to school, do something in the medical field. I went to Nursing school with the GI Bill and ACF (Army College Fund) and now make a very nice living with only an Associates Degree.
    Good Luck and thank you for your service
  14. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Those poly's can be tough.
  15. AZ Husker

    AZ Husker

    Mar 25, 2003
    When I got out I used the old GI Bill. I found out that if I joined the Guards, they paid 75% of my tuition, plus the pay. I then joined the ROTC program in the third year because of my prior service and got another $100/month pay. I received my commission to 2nd Lieutenant after two years. I was making money going to school.
  16. i got out in nov 09. spent 10 years as a MP but a combat related injury keeps me from being a LEO now. i spent several months looking and applying everywhere and ended up starting my own business as a handyman. i stay busy and it lets me work around my school.

    after being in the military for so long, i almost started to feel dumber. hate to put it that way but the way of the military is mindnumbing and easy. when i started college last year, it really brought me back out of the slump of being medically discharged. you will feel better about keeping your mind active and the new GI bill helps pay the mortgage so thats less stress in todays economy as well.

    read a long article about going to school while the economy was down as it will better prepare you for different things when/if things turn up again. might as well better yourself as much as you can while things are slow. especially if you arent currently working.
  17. The Maggy

    The Maggy

    Dec 24, 2008
    Stillwater, OK
    I spent five years in the infantry and spent two and a half years in Iraq. When I ETSed last year, the only job offer I received was a part time position working security/ door greeter at Best Buy. I took the job and worked it for a few weeks before I realized that I could start school ASAP and the GI Bill was going to pay out the same as Best Buy.

    It is kind of annoying when I apply for part time jobs in the summer, I can dismantle a M2 in the dark and I can maneuver a fire time across an objective but not many businesses are looking for that skill set. My advice to someone in the same position as me would be to go to any school, be it a tech center or an university, obtain some sort of real world skill, and then back it up with your military service.
  18. md2lgyk


    Mar 23, 2001
    What did you do in the military? Sorry to say, but many military jobs do not prepare you for civilian employment. If I were you, I'd use the GI Bill and get a degree or some technical training.
  19. Jeepnik


    Mar 5, 2008
    You mentioned "not being interested in anything". Young man, you need to go talk with someone about this. Been there, and done that. Find a vet support group. Not only will it put these feelings in perspective, but you will likely meet someone who can lend a hand toward finding work.

    And, like others have said, go back to school. It's hard to sit in a classroom after the "real" life you have led, but do it.