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Anyone hae a proven 10mm Deer hunting load?

Discussion in '10mm Reloading Forum' started by leeward419, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. leeward419

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    Hi,
    anoyone have a proven 10mm bullet and load combination for deer hunting?
    Thank You!
    PS North Eastern Deer, not those little things....
     
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  2. OhioGlockMan

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    Speer Gold Dot 180 grain, 1.255 oal, one full turn on the lee factory crimp (heavy crimp), 11 grains blue dot over winchester WLP primer. Clocks high 1300's (nipping the heels of 1400 fps most of the time) from my 6 inch barrel. Meets all the legal requirements too for hunting the biggest bucks in Ohio. The gold dot is a bonded bullet and will not come apart or separate, and I feel this weight is just right for deer
     


  3. crsuribe

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    I drove past Akron a couple weeks ago on my way to Cleveland. Nice place!

    Anyway, the above load would definitely do it. Another one you'll hear about is a 200gr XTP paired with 800-X and CCI 300's.

    As for the powder charge, it's basically something you'll have to work up yourself based on the book max loads until you hit 1200fps or so.

    Personally I would recommend a WFNGC (hard cast) like DT's or Bear Tooth in 200gr to 220gr for any type of hunting with the 10mm.

    I plan on working up a load using DT 200gr hard casts with 800-X and CCI 300s for Deer hunting.
     
  4. leeward419

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    Thanks Guys, am more interested in bullet type/brand/weight, are the hardcasts gas checked, or is that not necessary?...I have read that you get great penetration with hard cast, was leaning towards the gold dots and XTP's....thank you for the information...I will try all three and see what happens, I think I will start in the 200 gr size, am torn between the higer speed of the 180 vs additional mass of the 200.


    I drove across Ohio last summer, really nice state, I used to live in Cincinnati, but did not recall until last summer the many potential hunting areas
    Thanks again
     
  5. nickE10mm

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    I have killed two deer with my 10mm's, both were before I started reloading. Both deer were killed with a DT 200gr XTP, rated at 1250fps, actually clocked at around 1150fps or so.

    Now that I reload, I'll be using my own handloaded 200gr XTP over 9.5gr 800X. Also, I'll be using my Fusion 6" 1911 instead of a DW Razorback 5" 1911.

    I'm expecting the same 200gr XTP to be flying at 1300fps (750 ft/lbs energy), whereas the DT load I was successful with twice only had about 562 ft/lbs of energy.

    I'm thinking my handload will smack them with even greater authority over the DT. :)

    FWIW, 180gr XTP or 200gr WFNGC hardcast would also work fine.
     
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  6. JPP

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    Personally, I would not hunt deer with a handgun. My opinion.

    But, if you are so inclined, I think you should shoot the heaviest bullet possible.
     
  7. OhioGlockMan

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    I think 180 grain is just right, even for the biggest bucks. Based on all the tests I've seen and my own experience blasting water filled jugs- the main difference between the XTP and gold dot is that the XTP will penetrate deeper given the same weight. I have not hunted with the 200 XTP, but I've read of many hunters experience with it and deer, and every one of them stated it went all the way through.

    Yes we have world class bucks here in Ohio, people travel from all over the world to hunt deer here. Ohio is a mix of woodlands and open meadows and fields which make a perfect combo for the deer to have shelter and forrage- plus the deers natural predators no longer exist here. They tell us there are more deer here right now then when the pilgrims arrived and the Ohio department of wildlife is doing everything it can to encourage more hunters to get out there and hunt deer
     
  8. Jitterbug

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    Whitetails vary in size throughout their range, many years ago I saw some very nice bucks in central and southern Ohio.

    I think the 180-200 grain bullets would be a good choice.

    I've switched to the BTB 200 grain WFNGC for the hard cast, after shooting both available bullets my opinion is the BTB is the superior of the two. Much better construction, consistency and from what I've read/heard better quality materials are used. In looking at a handful of the two it's readily apparent the BTB is the better product.

    For smaller deer with a clean broadside heart/lung shot, I think the 180-200 grain XTP would give good performance, as would a 180 Gold Dot.

    For larger, heavier deer or were shots are going to penetrate bone or angle thought the body, hard cast might be a better choice.

    If you could thread one through the heart/lungs without hitting a rib, my guess is the H.P. would drop the deer quicker.

    I haven't hunted deer for awhile with a handgun, last time out for Colorado Mulie's and Whitetail's on the eastern plains river bottoms, I practiced for months prior to the hunt with a 6.5" 629.

    My personal maximum range was determined by my ability to consistently place 6 rounds on a 6" paper plate from various shooting positions with my hunting load.
     
  9. leeward419

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    From what I have read, the XTP's penetrate much better, Hardcast best for penetration expecially with larger animals/Bone etc, not too worried about ribs, I have had arrows moving 330FPS with 100 grain broad heads cutthru ribs and still have arrow penetrate both sides
    Thanks again for all of the information, this certainly helps narrow down the choices.
     
  10. Jitterbug

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    Over on caliber corner there is an interesting thread called the "The furniture penetration thread" or some such.

    The 180-200 grain hollow points penetrated 12-15 inches, of various media, whereas a Double Tap 200 grain WFNGC ran about 43"

    Pick your poison...if it were me, for Whitetails under 200 pounds, I'd probably use a 180-200 XTP and pick and place my shots, keep them under 30 yards and be willing to not pull the trigger unless the setup was a perfect behind the shoulder heart/lung shot, in which case I think the XTP would cause more internal damage, thereby dropping the deer quicker, unless a shoulder shot was taken (meat damage) with the hard cast.

    Being a bow hunter this should be a real fun experience for you. Good luck!

    Love to hear about 10mm hunting stories, I hope you fill your tag and keep us posted.
     
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  11. leeward419

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    Me Too! Bow season starts here October 15, cant wait!

    I will be trying the XTP's initially, I dont plan on using the pistol on shots longer than 25 yards or so.....longer is what they make 44mags for, and shotguns....cant use rifle in this part of state.
    Thank You for the info, will let you know how it goes
     
  12. JPP

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    Sounds like you are in NY, as I am.

    I am looking forward to bow season too. I have 12 treestands set up for the season, seeing a lot of bucks this year. Could be a real interesting season.
     
  13. leeward419

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    Yessir, Ny it is!
    And I do hope it will be an interesting season,
    Good Luck!
     
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  14. hubcap500

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    I think I've taken more Iowa deer with a handgun than with a shotgun (can't use rifles in Iowa and I don't bow hunt). 45ACP, 500SW, 444 Marlin. All except the ACP which was used for followup and finishing shots, were 1 shot kills. My avatar is the 1st buck I ever shot. Taken with a 15" .444 Marlin in a TC Encore. Doesn't show up in the smaller picture. I'm looking forward to using my G20 this year to harvest some venison.
     
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  15. ModGlock17

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    Why don't you start a thread where people can post 10mm hunting stories.

    That would be a very good read, and potentially draw interest to 10mm.
     
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  16. nickE10mm

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    I actually have two picture/story threads (one for each of my 10mm deer) here at GT... but yes, maybe a new thread where everyone can post in the same place. Love the 10mm for deer.
     
  17. Jitterbug

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    Well, it's getting to be that time of year again.

    Nick, maybe you could resurrect or start a new thread on your previous hunts to kick it off.

    Game, load, distance and results? That sort of thing?

    Sounds like a few guy's are going for deer this year.

    I may use 10mm on a Coyote or two, possibly a lion but it will be over the winter months.
     
  18. nickE10mm

    nickE10mm F.S.F.O.S.

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    Maybe I will... hmm
     
  19. cigarman454

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    Can't hunt with one here in Indiana (legally) case length is to short.:burn:
    Have killed several with my 30-06 encore.
     
  20. leeward419

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    Or pehaps big buck contest