i know back in the early 2000's clint smith said he didn't bother with hp's to eliminate any chance of a malf. said that big bullet would do the trick. in my opinion all the big name ammo manufacturers make quality hp's, and i'm really confident carrying any of them, but i myself sometimes carry speer lawman. same powder charge for the identical fps and good termimal energy to give officers and identical practice round. it's obviously not gonna do the same internal damage but unless it's a head or heart shot the bg ain't gonna stop and drop instantly anyway. i've got a crapload of 230 lawman i got at a good price, but i've also a crapload of goldots, golden saber and hst's. what do yall think of this. keep in mind there's a bunch of coffins filled with ball recipeints. what do yall think? Wanna kill these ads? We can help!