I was skeptical at first, but after a few years running, them, I'm a believer. The learning curve is harsh. Every movement, twitch, and pull is highly visible, due to the red dot jumping around in the window - if your trigger pull sucks, (and mine used to - a LOT), you'll see it. My improvements have carried over to shooting iron sighted pistols as well. Hitting a 100 yard torso is quite eye opening. 115gr works great, but no so much suppressed, as the sonic crack is still there. 147 suppressed is quiet, but the round drops quite noticeably.....at least in my experience. I realize that for a lot of you, its not your thing - it wasn't mine either, until I tried it, hated it, then gave it a chance. Now, I'm a believer. Just curious as to how many others are running these setups, and what your results were. Did your trigger pull improve? Did you notice you were faster on farther targets, but a tad slower on closer targets? I've found that using the RMR's "window", instead of the dot, 10 yards an in, is much faster.....like a huge ghost ring. image by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr image by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr image by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr Wanna kill these ads? We can help!