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Any knowledgable Savage 99 fans here?

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by clancy, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. clancy

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    I recently came into possession of a Savage 1899, .303 Savage, serial #116862. All I have been able to find out so far is it was made in 1911. I have taken it to 2 local gunsmiths, and gotten 2 totally different opinions. One feels it is worth around $400, and that it was customized at some point after it left the factory, most likely by Griffin and Howe. There is extensive engraving, a jeweled bolt, and very fancy wood. It has a Griffin and Howe scope base and a marbles tang sight.

    The other gunsmith feels it is worth around $2000, and that it was a factory presentation piece. I plan on contacting both Savage and Griffin and Howe, but thought someone here might have some input.

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  2. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

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    Beautiful gun.

    My dad has 99 Savage in 303 Savage that was made in 1903. His is pretty plain and he cut the barrel to 20" back in the 1950s.


    Might start looking at www.savage99.com for info
     

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  3. smokeross

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    Savage did engrave some of their 99's. My brother has several of them. The low baller was probably just trying to get it cheap. Keep checking on it. Savage will know if that is their style of engraving. A good reference book would probably help you determine it yourself.
     
  4. countrygun

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    I have a few 99s and IMO don't deal with the lowballer again. Even if it weren't factory engraving that would still be a terrible estimate. the G&H scope base alone makes that estimate ridiculous. smokeross was right. Savage turned out a fairly good number of factory engraved pieces, which are highly collectable and faily easy for the expert to authenticate. Even if it wasn't done at the factory, the scope mount gives me the idea that the engraving might well have been done by an artist who's work has a collectors value all of it's own. It is well worth "nailing down" the details
     
  5. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

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    I don't know much about that gun, but I do know a good looking piece of gun history when I see one. And that gun definately fits the bill. :thumbsup: Congrats!
     
  6. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    I don't know whether or not the gun was factory presentation grade or what but those old 99s (not to be confused with the reproduction) were and are sweet!!! Well made, well designed. A friend of mine inherited from his mom a .300 Savage 99. I wanted to buy but he won't sell it.
     
  7. clancy

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    I found Griffin and Howe's website, and sent their historian an email with all the information I have as well as pictures. Hopefully he can give me some nformation, or at least point me in the right direction.

    The gunsmith who lowballed it($400, you gotta be kidding me!) also said the bore was shot. I cleaned the bore and ran a light down it, it is far from shot. The first gunsmith, who told me it was worth around $2k, said if it didn't have the scope mount it would be worth at least $4k. As I left, his helper whispered that I should double whatever he told me it was worth. By the way, this is the same guy I showed my Luger P-08, Ehrfurt manufacture, dated 1917, that told me it was only worth about $600. I realize everyone deserves to make a profit, but jeez.
     
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  8. 257 roberts

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    I hope you research your gun,I've been collecting 99's for a few years( 99F 358 win, 99C 284 Win, 99C 7mm08, 99A's in 243 Win & 358 Win, 99EG 300 Sav. ,308 Win. in 99A, E and F and a 303 Sav ) I would give $700.00 right now just PM me!!!!!
     
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  9. Decguns

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    Looking through my library, I noticed Savage offered a lot of factory engraved 99 rifles. These usually featured a bear, cat or complex design. They usually featured a tang sight like yours. Apparently Savage didn't drill & tap receivers for scope mounts until the 1950's.

    Your engraving looks much like the factory engraved rifles. Savage offered about a dozen different "trim" levels for their rifles. From the 1911 time period, the engraved rifles fetch anywhere from $2000 to $30,000 for a "Rival Grade". I guess Rival is one step below the best grade, Monarch. The quality of the wood on the rifle seems to be gauge for the value.
     
  10. 257 roberts

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    I had made a comment on price but you are right,there was alot of variables on the high-end 99's and 99's are at a premium right now