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Any input on the 338 Federal

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by bcj128, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. bcj128

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    I am looking at the Ruger Frontier rifle in 338 Federal. Anyone have any info on this caliber? What is the recoil like, and what kind of game is to good for?
     
  2. MSgt Dotson

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    I would imagine it capable of taking anything in the USA, including in ALaska, via it's heavier/larger bullets....

    Might not equal the .338 WinMag with all heavier bullet weights, but , ...so what... :)
     


  3. Zombie Steve

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    Sorry to add more speculation, but I asked this question as one of my first threads here, and no response...


    The American Rifleman article written when it first came out said it felt like shooting 180's out of a 30-06.

    As far as game - they had a pic of the author of the article grinning over a huge black bear - apparently went through one shoulder, all the way through the torso and broke the other shoulder without exiting. I can't remember what grain or type of bullet he was using. I'd guess it would take any large game in North America... performance is often compared to a 7mm mag.

    Shooting a .338 out of a .308 case has been wildcatted to death over the years... it was about time someone standardized it. That said, I still have not shot one, but it holds my interest...
     
  4. fredj338

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    I routinely hunt w/ a 338-06. The 338Fed. is sim. but you'll lose about 150fps w/ all bullet wts. It's NOT even close to a 338winmag, but would be a nice short range (under 250yd) rifle for most of NA hunting. It pretty much maxs out w/ a 225gr bullet in the short case. I've though of buidling one to go w/ the 338-06, but see little reason to. It could be had on a short action, light wt. rifle that wouldn't bet the crap out of you. It's best w/ a 200-210gr bullet @ 2600fps. The 338-06 will make 2750fps+ & the 3382inmag 3000fps. I see it as a great timber rifle for deer & elk, but much beyond 250yds, it's losing too much vel. for reliable expansion w/ anything but 185gr or 200gr Nosler bal.tips. As always, JMO.
     
  5. dougader

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    Agree with Fred. And the loading data I've seen doesn't look any better than stated.

    Always wanted to get into a 338-06, though.
     
  6. fredj338

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    It's agreat round, should have been standardized years ago. I have taken coyotes to elk, zebra & all things inbetween. With a 210grNP @ 2750fps, it shoots as flat as the 06 w/ 180gr loads & hits just a bit harder. It is my go to round for Montana elk/deer.:supergrin: If you ever get into one, PM me for some very good handloads.
     
  7. Jeepnik

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    Something new to get you to spend your money on. Won't kill anything any deader than rounds dating back to the 1870's.
     
  8. dougader

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    Will do, Fred. I have been hunting with the 30-06 for years and never saw any real reason to change but have always liked what I have read about the 338-06.

    In a recent Handloader mag the writer was talking about 338 WIn Mag and how he and most people actually load them down... at or below 338-06 levels sometimes for elk and especially deer. Then I've seen guys who load their 338-06's to near 338 mag velocities. It all makes me think the 338-06 should be a heck of a lot more popular than it is.

    If Remington, Ruger or Browning had a rifle in 338-06 I'd buy one. All I see on the market now are overpriced old stock Weatherby's and a few custom guns made by guys I never heard of.
     
  9. fredj338

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    The great thing about the 338-06 is all you need is a 06 based rifle & a new bbl. You can buy brass or make it by necking up 06 or 280 or 270 brass, or necking down 35whelen brass. Is it better than your 06, probably not for 98% of hunting, but for big animals in close, it is just a bit better IMO. The 250grSP @ 2550fps smack stuff pretty hard.
     
  10. dougader

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    I know I'd want one if I were hunting anywhere grizzly or Alaskan browns roamed. The 250 gr. load would be my choice for elk in montana or moose in alaska.
     
  11. msoprano

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    I would imagine that the recoil in a Ruger Frontier would be substantial. I too am interested in a .338 federal, but have yet to make the leap.
     
  12. BOGE

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    True, but I don't like lugging my 16 lbs. Sharps 50-90 around!! :supergrin:

    :rofl:
     
  13. Jeepnik

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    That's what horses are for.:supergrin:
     
  14. Glock1911

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    If you were in Kodiak/Alaskan Brownie country which bullet loading would be best in the .338 Federal?
     
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  16. dougader

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    The 250 grain load in 338 Federal slows down quite a bit. I'd look toward a Nosler Partition or Trophy Bonded Bear Claw (or some other bullet known for controlled expansion and deep penetration) in the 210 - 225 grain weight.
     
  17. BOGE

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    If you can handle a 338 then you can handle a 375 H&H IMO.
     
  18. .338 Fed is a very nice round. Especially if you handload.
     
  19. Glock1911

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    "If you can handle a 338 then you can handle a 375 H&H IMO."

    Well, that certainly puts the round in a perspective, recoil wise, that I can relate to. Too bad they don't make an AR platform that will handle the .375 H&H.:supergrin:

    I guess I should have mentioned that I've been toying with the idea of converting an AR to .338 for use as a "camp" gun. Probably, over kill, but...:dunno:
     
  20. BOGE

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    They make an AR in 338? :dunno: Last I knew only Browning made a semi-auto rifle in 338.